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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-12-17 06:25 pm

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(Anonymous) 2018-12-17 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
YES. Completely agree. Those out-there AUs can start off fine, but then a few chapters in you might as well be reading original fic. Nothing wrong with that, but if I click on a fanfic, that's what I want to read. Vastly prefer AUs that offer a subtle twist on canon.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-17 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
If it's a good story, it's a good story. Imo

(Anonymous) 2018-12-17 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure. But for many people, "good stories" include decent characterization, not OOC writing.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-17 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Just because the characterization is different than the source material doesn't mean it's bad. In some cases it might even be an improvement.

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(Anonymous) 2018-12-17 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. I wish there was a different term for the 'for want of a nail'-type of AUs so they'd be easier to find.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-17 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't that what Canon-Divergent means? Mostly canon, with some alterations. At least..that's what I was using it for.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-17 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Yeah, but almost no one uses it. Whether's a minor change to canon or Dean Winchester being a space pirate who dresses up as a unicorn, it's just an 'AU'.

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(Anonymous) 2018-12-21 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
a million billion years ago I heard of some people making a distinction between "alternate universes" (which diverge from some point before or during canon) versus "parallel universes" (which have never shared the same history as canon) So, Buffy's Wishverse (where Buffy doesn't move to Sunnydale at the start of the series) would be an alternate universe, or "what if character x didn't die at the end of episode 1?", while Star Trek's Mirrorverse (people are evil instead of good! and have always been that way!) and Coffeeshop AUs would be parallel universes.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-12-18 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm with you. Except I actually generally am not even into the idea of really out there AUs. I have to be really sold to be interested in reading them. I'm in fic for the canon being what it is. If I wanted non-magical AUs and such, I'd find a different fandom.
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[personal profile] silverusagi 2018-12-18 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
This is my favorite type of AU. My favorite fanfic ever is one of these. (Vejiitasei Ascendant, which asks "what if Vejiitasei was never destroyed?")
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[personal profile] lurea 2018-12-18 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
LINK??? Please?
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[personal profile] silverusagi 2018-12-18 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yikes, the site it was archived on seems to have disappeared. But I did find someone who has uploaded the whole thing. It's a fandom classic, but it's so old now a lot of people have never heard of it, and it's disappearing from the old sites it was on. Someone has done a PDF of it.

https://plus.google.com/109834547539273515965/posts/dqPA4CDpdBv

Let me know if that doesn't work for you, I'll try to dig up another link.

It's seriously the best fanfic I've ever read. The world building astounds me. Things that are in the first few chapters pay off like 200,000 words later. It's also LONG, but it's not one of those fics that goes on and on without direction. You just want to read it forever. It's also unfinished, but as the post above mentions, the author uploaded her notes to end Book 3, and you get a really good, satisfying idea of how things wrap up.

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[personal profile] silverusagi 2018-12-19 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Also, I realized I had the original (dead) site in my bookmarks, so here it is via the Wayback Machine, though that does not include the author's notes to end book 3.
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[personal profile] esteefee 2018-12-18 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
You can still change one thing in their lives and have them end up serving espresso at a coffee shop. I mean, obviously, it depends on the universe but this worked in mine.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-18 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Let's be real though, this isn't going to be the case for many fandoms and characters, not withing some serious credibility strain and handwaving.
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[personal profile] esteefee 2018-12-18 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
? I would work for a hell of a lot of them. I think a lot of people just up and plunk all the characters down in a coffeeshop (or teaching college, or baking bread) without bothering to explain why the change. If you do that, then sure, the characters will be OOC. But that's not to say it's *wrong* to write an AU where you plunk. It's just a different approach. The only reason I bothered to backstory it was I'd never read a coffeeshop AU before and I just assumed that was how it was done (because I assumed that was how all AUs were done. I was kind of new to fandom at the time).
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2018-12-18 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I love any AU that actually has the work put into how different circumstances would affect events and characters, and I do wish there were more simpler concepts like that because it's so hard to find totally alternate universes where the nature-nurture logic is even there.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-18 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'm with you there, OP. I don't mind AU's but so many of them get so OOC. The type of story that you described is more my jam.
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[personal profile] catdetective 2018-12-18 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
I love that kind of canon divergence. There are some really interesting stories that can come out of just one thing happening differently. I don't mind some more out there AUs if they're written by someone with a good grasp of the characterization and how to hold it consistent in another world (or if I just want to read a story with a specific setting once in a while), but like... those stories that hinge on that one minor thing... those can be really good stuff.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-18 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
I agree! Especially when a character has a trait/affliction (being a werewolf for example) that can't be easily sidestepped. It always seems to be written out completely, or made into a disease which isn't exactly accurate either...

...but, space pirates? Now that's interesting!;; I'm not sure what fandom you're talking about, but I would actually love it if all of a sudden everyone was writing Space Pirate AU's. (then again ancient magical artifacts and werewolves can totally be a space thing, I'm sure;;)

(Anonymous) 2018-12-18 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Werewolves in space? That's ridiculous, how would they know when it was the full moon

(Anonymous) 2018-12-18 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Depend on what planet they're on..?
Also I always figured they changed because they were in direct view of the moon- kinda like the tides/whatever change with the moons different cycles. So technically, as long as the ship circles the planet in a way where the moon is constantly shadowed by the planet/whatever they might not have to worry about changing...?
(hell, it could even be a plot point that they need to risk being in full view of the moon when trying to escape the space cops... or not...)

(Anonymous) 2018-12-18 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
y'all are giving me ideas for a comic...!!!

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