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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-12-25 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #4374 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4374 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Disney/Doctor Who crossover]


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[Avatar: The Last Airbender]


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(Markiplier and his friend Wade)


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[Dumplin' on Netflix]


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[Daredevil]


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[Criminal Minds S03E13 "Limelight"]










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[personal profile] fscom 2018-12-25 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
03. https://i.imgur.com/dJDs8am.png
[Avatar: The Last Airbender]
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[personal profile] morieris 2018-12-25 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
This secret made me realize that yes, that bit in Korra was a retcon.

Yeah, I like "imitating nature and earth magic coming through" better.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I saw it as less of a retcon and more of an in-universe thing; over 10,000 years the truth is bound to get lost/distorted. I mean, people think Jesus was born in winter But I agree with you to an extent. As much as I liked those episodes, it does seem like a weaker origin.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Except the Avatar is re-incarnated. So the Avatar itself didn't realize who the first host was even though memories are past to each new host? And 10,000 years worth of hosts and they didn't know about Raava or Vaatu? How does the Avatar not know about the Avatar?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Because the memories aren’t passed down automatically? Every new Avatar has to learn through fresh experience. They’re able to talk to the previous hosts if they want, but they have to spend the time and ask the right questions...

(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
If the Avatar remembered that they'd never have to learn bending again in any life.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like one thing that fantasy habitually gets wrong is that along with linguistic drift you'll have folklore drift among both oral and written traditions such that different cultures will have different explanations for why things are the way they are. Morrowind is one of the few franchises to deal with this by dumping a half-dozen conflicting stories and coyly asking the player to figure it out.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
100% this is my favorite explanation for Tom Bombadil.

(also, there's a game setting, Glorantha, which is basically built around those ideas FYI)

(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Agree - and it doesn’t help that that was just the weakest season of Korra...

(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Which would have been forgiveable if they actually did anything interesting and different with the retcon, but the Raava and Vaatu stuff was downright terrible. But I'm happy to consider all of them myths with some vague basis in reality.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
Right... But then again this is the same series that says bending is in no way hereditary, Zuko decided to abandon all he lived for because he heard some story once, that all female waterbenders are meant to be housewives, and only know to heal if even that. The same storyline that established that Katara couldn't learn to waterbend from a scroll that literally dictated how to bend, but could somehow then learn how to blood-bend upon seeing it not even really once... Yeah. I could go on...

The fact that Korra somehow retcons the original series is really no surprise. I haven't even watched the sequel- but the fact someone can be up in arms about a series that couldn't even remember where it came from to begin with, is pretty much shocking to me...

I get nostalgic value, but by no means should you be delusional about it.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhhh. What. I don't think you really got that the point of Katara's Book 1 arc with water bending was that the whole thing about female water benders was BS cooked up by the Northern Tribe?

And Katara wasn't able to learn bending wholesale (though she did improve after reading it) from the scroll the same way an inexperienced kid without basic training can't become a kung fu master from reading a book, but someone who has previous kung fu training can read it and use the techniques effectively based off of what they already know. The Katara who was able to figure out blood bending had trained under a master to learn the basic principles of her art and had honed her knowledge with 3 seasons of combat experience and observation of other benders.