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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-01-03 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #4382 ]


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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-01-04 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
Also, a lot of the f/f porn/erotica aimed at men is really aimed at men. By that I mean, they are playing with the camera in the same way women do in m/f porn/erotica. It isn't about the women's pleasure even though it is only featuring women. Which is not something I see too much in m/m erotica aimed at women. The men involved are in it for themselves, not their audience (or in the case of porn are in it for themselves and the audience, but then again m/m porn isn't generally aimed at women).
Edited 2019-01-04 05:52 (UTC)
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2019-01-04 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
heh. I'm a straight woman who prefers m/m erotica.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-01-04 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a bi woman who does m/m or f/f for erotica but only m/m for porn. F/F porn is just creepy the way it is filmed, honestly. And I can only enjoy something when it seems like the people involved are actually enjoying themselves too.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2019-01-04 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
." And I can only enjoy something when it seems like the people involved are actually enjoying themselves too."
Amen, sister!

(Anonymous) 2019-01-04 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure this is a gendered thing, as I'm sure you can say this about a lot of m/m fanfiction written by women for women.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-04 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah m/m fanfic or fandoms really aren't at all immune to the same fetishy shit that straight men do with f/f, but fandom sure likes to pretend this is the case.

the only difference is that men making live-action f/f porn are getting money from it and it's a lot more mainstream, so i can understand people taking more onus with it. hell i do because of how gross it can be about my orientation and how alien f/f made by men feels, they're not people they're objects and it really comes across.

but i've absolutely read fanfic or seen people in m/m fandom who are every bit as gross as those fetishistic straight men, it's just that m/m erotica is a bit more niche and it's catering to women's interests so funnily enough a majority female space like fandom gives it a pass.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-04 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I also think that it's much, much harder to consistently identify when written erotica is being objectifying than it is for visual media. Everything is much more of a grey area. Both with f/f, and m/m. It's a lot harder to generalize.