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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-01-07 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #4386 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Nah I think it would definitely be more taboo, though I agree it would be common

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Oh hey. I made a secret about daemons recently too. I just felt like I showed up to a party dressed in the same outfit as someone else when I saw this. Weird!

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Daemons?
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[personal profile] darkestabsol 2019-01-08 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
It's based on how in His Dark Materials, everyone has a daemon that takes an animal form that symbolically represents who that person is. If I recall right, daemons are meant to be the person's soul, manifested externally. There's more to it, but people like taking the daemon aspect and applying it to daemon aus for other series.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
And that, based on the ancient Greek lesser guiding nature spirit.

Or it's a reference to teledildonics.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
curse u for making me think about this

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure Pullman drops hints about kids and teens doing this - they go off and spend time alone with their daemons a lot.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
And adults if I remember right. I remember touching another person's daemon as somewhat analogous to sexual intimacy.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I got the feeling from The Golden Compass that it was kind of a bigger deal than sexual intimacy? A daemon is like a physics manifestation of your soul, so someone putting their hands on it is a bit more taboo than grabbing a tit or something. Even married folks don't touch each other's daemons.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
Even married folks don't touch each other's daemons.

Wait, really? I haven't read the books, but in fanfic AUs, touching each other's daemons is used constantly as a shippy trope. I've never read a HDM AU that didn't involve the main ship eventually touching each other's daemons.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
There is at least one significant moment in the books when two characters embrace and their daemons to likewise. I don't know where other anon got the idea that daemons should never touch.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
The daemons touch each other, yes, but the humans don't touch each others' daemons.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-10 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The two main characters do touch each other's daemons at the end of the trilogy, once, right before they are separated for the last time.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, that’s why it’s used so much in fanfic. It’s portrayed as literally the most intimate thing another person could ever do - and fanfic loves shit like that.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Found this fascinating.

http://selena-rathwell.mozello.com/academic-writi/daemons-divinity-and-doing-it/

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't read the books, but based on how daemons are presented in fusion fics, I totally agree.

It kinda squicks me out a bit, because well, in our world animals are animals and that's called bestiality. But I'm sure in the world of HDM people would think of daemons in a completely different way than they thought of animals.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-08 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't care if they're mystical beings with human-level sentience, they're in the forms of animals so it's still bestiality.

I've heard the same excuse from lolicons, "No no she's not a child, she's ACTUALLY 9,000 years old!"

It's just gross, sorry.

Like who wants to fuck a little ferret or monkey or cat, seriously wtf.

(ALSO the Magisterium doesn't like daemons anyways so they're definitely not going to accept such "sinful" behavior with them.)

(Anonymous) 2019-01-11 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Co-signed. Too many folks in this thread are bending over backwards trying to find a "cool" "spiritual" "okay" way of saying "I want to have sex with animals and read about people having sex with animals." Just, gross. No.