[ SECRET POST #605 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #605 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 17 pages, 401 secrets from Secret Submission Post #087.
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Comments

142; 146; 147

[(Anonymous)]

142. I could have written this secret, accept for the part where F!S made me do something stupid. You know what works for you, OP (the same thing that works for me, apparently); you shouldn't allow random anons on the internet to have such sway over your behavior.

146. Please be a troll.

147. Firstly, as a religious person, your reasons are precisely why I find the books completely unoffensive. Secondly, the Will/Lyra thing didn't squick me because it was clear that it was innocent love. Twelve-year-olds have been known to kiss. In fact, I've seen it myself at more than one summer camp. Those books are always a joy to read, even if they did overload my poor little nine-year-old brain the first time around.

147 OP

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, in that when I was first reading them, it didn't even come to mind that the book could offend the religious for precisely this reason (I also enjoy Narnia); at the time I didn't know much about Phillip Pullman so I had no reason to have preconceptions about what the book was intended to say.

What bothered me about Will/Lyra was less the fact of the relationship and more that as much as I'd have liked to take it as innocent love, the terms in which it was described seemed extremely intense and passionate, in a way that made it feel disturbingly lustful. They don't just kiss: they violently grab hold of one another and press their faces together. There's the whole savoring the honey-like scent of her hair and the taste of her mouth thing. And then there's the end where they proclaim to love one another more than anybody has ever loved. All I could think was, "Oh, God, twelve-year-olds should not think that way about love."

Well, it may just be me.

Re: 147 OP

[(Anonymous)]

Your mileage may vary, I guess.

Re: 147 OP

[(Anonymous)]

12-year-olds are at the beginning of the stage in which humans believe that everything they're experiencing is more intense and true and emotional than anything anyone else has ever experienced in the entirety of time. Of course they think they're in deeper love than has ever existed. Because they're 12.

Re: 142; 146; 147

[trinity-destler.livejournal.com]

Wasn't it very nearly stated that they had sex towards the end of the third book? I seem to remember, but it was a while ago and I have no desire to read them again.

Re: 142; 146; 147

[(Anonymous)]

Nope. Just a lot of touching (as in, face to face) and kissing. Some people extrapolated that they had sex, but it was never explicitly stated. I personally never got that impression.