[ SECRET POST #606 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #607 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Not OP's tl;dr

[sabinetzin]

My contention is that Edgeworth's storyline ends in 2-4. I actually didn't like that he showed up in 3-5 from a literary standpoint, because he and Larry only showed up for old time's sake (and fanservice).The main storyline of 3 is the Kurain storyline, obviously. It also has more room for the development of Phoenix's character than the other games (which is still not much).

I guess my problem is that Phoenix is such a thin filter. Until AJ, he's not a round character in the way that Edgeworth is, because there are simply not the same opportunities to see him. It's Phoenix that I sometimes find uninteresting, so I can't really grok why somebody would play just for him. Phoenix is awesome, he's my proxy, he's my buddy, but it's Edgeworth I find compelling enough to keep playing for.

Part of the problem is that the story of Phoenix's journey is simply not enough motivation for me. If you take Edgeworth's personality and his own motivations, backstory, etc out of it, you're just going to rescue Princess Peach, and that type of storyline frankly bores the shit out of me. Bitch can rescue her damn self.

same not OP anon

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the stuff on three was more for one of the other posters in the thread.

To each their own. Can I help it if I like vanilla?

Not that I really see Phoenix as 'vanilla' myself, obviously. His moral naivety paired to his practicality, the more confident front he plays over his insecurities and a nearly insane desire to please others... Actually, I love learning things about him through interaction with the environment. He is the player proxy, but unlike, say, Link [whom I also like in his various incarnations XD], he does have a distinct voice of his own. It may be true that we never really have much of an opportunity to see him outside the work environment-- but, he's grown on me to the point where I would be interested in seeing the other aspects of his life.

Edgeworth... I dunno, I simply failed to make a connection with him. I think that may be part of my problem-- he feels a little unconnected to me, whether he's just keeping to himself (the way I see him in one) or absorbed in himself (the way I see him in two). Phoenix is real to me. Edgeworth is just some ideal stuck in Phoenix's head that doesn't match the reality.

And AJ. Oh dear, the love/hate relationship I have with that game. But I guess I won't tl;dr about it here :)

But essentially, it seems we shall always differ on this matter of taste. I just wanted to point out to you that people with opinions such as mine do exist, and we like Ace Attorney just fine XD

Re: same not OP anon

[sabinetzin]

See, that's where we differ on Edgeworth. I like him because he's aloof- it makes me want to know more, to tease it out. In a lot of ways, I see Phoenix as a tool to get to Edgeworth.

It is true that there is a lot to learn about Phoenix through playing, but it's still a little light for my tastes. It may be, too, that I've played the games too damn much, so I've internalized all that stuff about Phoenix. It's not that I'm not interested in him, either- there's just more interesting stuff to look at.

Oh god, let's just not even start on AJ. We'd be here until the Rapture.

...Would anon be interested in writing a counterpoint essay about this type of stuff, assuming I ever get around to actually writing an essay about it like I'm threatening?

Re: same not OP anon

[(Anonymous)]

Haha, yeah XD AJ... is AJ. And we'll leave it at that.

I would probably give it a shot, since I'm the type of person who likes to type these kinds of things out (...as if you couldn't tell). It helps me work things out for my own benefit, at the very least.

Only problem is with the anon-ness I am so fond of hiding behind. I could probably give you a poke on AIM with the screenname I use for hanging out in the empty kink meme chatroom, if you'd like a way to get in direct touch with me.

Re: same not OP anon

[sabinetzin]

No worries- I'm all about some anon. If/when we get it together, I can post it on my lj or in gyakuten_saiban or somesuch, so as to protect your anonimities.

My AIM is a little sketch right now, but we can try it out. You can also just email me at mcangmar [at] gmail [dot] com.