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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-01-21 06:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #4400 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4400 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-01-21 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Tbh, as soon as someone uses the phrase "virtue-signalling" I stop reading, because 9/10 times it means someone was chided and can't think of a better comeback or justification than insulting the integrity of whoever did the chiding. Life's too short.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-22 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I was wondering when these sorts of comments were going to come back. It used to be you couldn't use the phrase at all on this community without getting heat for it, and lately it seems like it's become a common phrase.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-22 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT but just want to agree with them, it's a silly phrase and concept that people shouldn't use.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-22 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I think people use it because they don't understand why someone would be an insufferably sanctimonious scold unless they were doing it to make themselves look good by comparison - i.e., signal their virtue.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-22 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
In general, I think it makes more sense to consider whether or not someone is acting like a dick separately from whether they're sincere and whether the views they're espousing are correct. And the problem with 'virtue signaling' as a concept is that it conflates those three things in a really frustrating way. It's a tactic to dismiss the entirety of what they're saying.

If you think that someone is acting sanctimonious, just say that, instead of making assumptions about their motivation for doing so, and dismissing the entirety of their statement based on those grounds. That's how I personally happen to see it, anyway.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-22 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I mean... if someone scolds me, I'm going to automatically dismiss anything they have to say because scolding is such off-putting behavior. It's one of the most ineffective ways to try to persuade someone.

But sure, I for one will make a point of just calling it "scolding" in the future rather than "virtue-signalling" because I see your point.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-22 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
da

I've used the term in reference to people who like and reblog anti hate about [X] and then never mention [X] on their Tumblr again.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-22 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't that pretty much the definition of virtue-signalling, anyway? Pretending to care about an issue just to get attention or brownie points?

(Anonymous) 2019-01-22 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm getting the sense from the comments that the phrase itself is tainted and I shouldn't be using it at all.