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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-01-21 06:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #4400 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4400 ⌋

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Re: Misconceptions that bug you in media

(Anonymous) 2019-01-22 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
The old "Back in Ye Oldene Dayes, 12 year olds got married all the time, especially to old men" chestnut that get trotted out in vampire/other immortal fiction whenever the writers want to give their 300 year old were-vamp-alien a non-creepy reason to perv on a 15 year old.

Because first, for the most part, 15 was about the bottom limit for most people when it came to marriage, and second, those teenagers were mostly getting married to other teenagers or very young 20-somethings. The age gap between spouses was 2-5 years. Not 25 years.

Now, sure, there were exceptions. The high aristocracy would marry off kids to adults, but those were less marriages as they're currently understood and more real estate transactions. Second marriages (due to widowing) often had large age gaps, but generally both partners were coming in with kids and needed new housekeeper/breadwinner. Also, weird things tended to happen in communities where there were a lot more men than women. Also, occasionally some pervy 40 year old would rape and knock up a 15 year old, and a shotgun wedding would ensue. But mostly, teenaged girls marrying middle-aged men was not a commonly accepted or encouraged practice in Western culture from at least the Renaissance onwards.

Re: Misconceptions that bug you in media

(Anonymous) 2019-01-22 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Fuckin' THIS. Just - all of THIS.
Plus, like... old timey folks might not have known dick about shit in a whole lotta ways, but they could generally pick a pattern like 'pregnant 15 year olds die a lot more than pregnant 25 year olds' and come to a conclusion like 'maybe women shouldn't have kids until they're a bit older, just maybe'.

Re: Misconceptions that bug you in media

(Anonymous) 2019-01-22 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I hate the misconception that everyone who writes about 13-year-olds getting married in an old-fashioned setting knows better and is intentionally lying about being historically accurate. No. They don't do their research, and they believe the misconception too. The writing world isn't full of guys just sneaking around being liars so they can get off on child marriage. For fucks sake.

Re: Misconceptions that bug you in media

(Anonymous) 2019-01-22 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Feel like it's sorta both? They don't do the research because they don't want to do the research, because they're happy with the conclusions.

Re: Misconceptions that bug you in media

(Anonymous) 2019-01-22 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
You seem to be reading an awful lot into this, nonny. No one accused anyone of being a liar. It's a popular trope in certain genres for modern characters to excuse some immortal whatever's attraction to a tween under the 'that sort of thing was normal back when they were young.' This trope is based on a misconception. Unbunch your knickers.