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[ SECRET POST #4402 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4402 ⌋

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Inspired by #1. Is there a show/game/series/etc. that is frequently criticized (for being offensive, sexist, etc.), but you feel like the critics miss the point (or exaggerate/nitpick their issues with?)

I felt that way about Banana Fish, when people criticised it for having lots of rape. But it felt like the series wasn't using rape as a shock tactic/fanservice, it was a story literally about victims overcoming sexual abuse and the oppression of abusers. If you strip it of the mafia stuff, that's really what the story was - especially since the author allegedly wrote it as a response to her own experience being raped.

Banana Fish is one of the few BL-ish series that actually treats rape respectfully and portrays it as a bad and terrible thing, not something that's supposed to be seen as hot. I'm not sure how people could read/watch the series and totally miss that...

The series definitely wasn’t using rape as fanservice. All those scenes made me feel sick and I’m not sure how anybody could watch it and think those scenes were meant to be fanservice. I can kinda see how some people viewed them as a shock tactic though.

Hot take: I don’t think Hamilton is racist. Obviously this is not the majority mainstream opinion but there were a LOT of people in fandom who said that...

Hamilton the musical? With the famously multiracial cast? What?

Yes, because it is glorifying slave owners and casting them as poc is racist. Also I think Lin got called racist for appropriating black slang? Obviously I don’t agree.

I think there's a case to be made that it overstates the extent to which the FF were actually opposed to slavery

The musical?? How?

I've seen The Handmaid's Tale (the TV show) criticized for being bleak and depressing, but I think that's most of the point. They may have gone a touch over the top with the way they depicted the Colonies but it's meant to be hard to watch and hard to think about. If that's not somebody's thing, fine, but I don't really understand it as a criticism of the show. Game of Thrones isn't my thing because I found it too bleak and depressing, but that doesn't mean I think they should make it differently.

Wait... they're criticizing THT for being bleak and depressing? Do they also criticize horror movies for being too scary?

Like, wtf?

I agree it’s the point and I don’t begrudge the show, but I did stop watching halfway through season 2 because I just wasn’t enjoying watching it anymore. It did feel overall darker than season 1 (which wasn’t exactly uplifting) and that made it less enjoyable to me - so I do get where the criticism comes from.

I mean, you can say, "Hey this got to depressing/bleak/dark for me to continue, sorry, I'm out." without criticizing a show that is MEANT to be those things... for being those things though.

Yeah but “I didn’t like that it got darker” IS a criticism even if it is one that doesn’t begrudge the show.

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[ SECRET POST #4402 ]

What show gets a bad reputation that you passionately disagree with the critics about?

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Re: What show gets a bad reputation that you passionately disagree with the critics about?

Re: What show gets a bad reputation that you passionately disagree with the critics about?

Re: What show gets a bad reputation that you passionately disagree with the critics about?

Re: What show gets a bad reputation that you passionately disagree with the critics about?

Re: What show gets a bad reputation that you passionately disagree with the critics about?

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Re: What show gets a bad reputation that you passionately disagree with the critics about?