[ SECRET POST #4409 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4409 ⌋

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[fscom]

05. https://i.imgur.com/7njfhqu.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Who is he and what did he do?

[(Anonymous)]

Richard Webber from Grey's Anatomy. And so, so many things. Starting with the fact that he treats everyone like crap (Meredith, Meredith's mom, his wife, his employees) for a really long time and never really apologizes much (once or twice to Meredith, and that's it.) Yes, there was a storyline where he was an alcoholic, but he was terrible before that, and he was terrible after that (continued to neglect his wife).

[(Anonymous)]

It's always so annoying when a character doesn't actually have a redemption arc, but it seems like the audience is expected to act like they have

It's because Bailey likes him and respects him that the audience is supposed to.

[(Anonymous)]

Meredith Grey drives the narrative and is at the center of the universe, but Miranda Bailey is the heart and/or soul of it and where she goes the audience is supposed to follow, even when she's wrong, the audience is supposed to be sympathetic to her. Which is fine, except she has a giant blind spot for Richard Webber. Meredith sees him more clearly, I think, but has forgiven him a lot.

Re: It's because Bailey likes him and respects him that the audience is supposed to.

[philstar22]

This is true, I think. Also, there is the fact that on Grey's, affairs are perfectly fine if you are in love but terrible (most of the time) if you aren't. So some of his behavior gets justified in the same way Derek's affair with Meredith (the second time around after he chose to go back with Addison) is justified. Other affairs aren't good, though they still aren't treated as badly as I think they are (see Arizona, George and Izzy). Honestly the only one ever treated really badly was Mark and Addison.

Re: It's because Bailey likes him and respects him that the audience is supposed to.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, there's Owen cheating on Christina. And Nathan Riggs cheating on Owen's sister. But, yeah, for the most part.

But honestly, the cheating is just one thing in a litany, since Richard has operated drunk, pressured Meredith into compromising that study, abandoned Ellis (though he professed to love her), treated Adele badly beyond the cheating, made unilateral (and bad) decisions because of his ego, has been cruel to Meredith, shoved Miranda with enough violence to make her fall, manipulated people, played favorites with interns, residents, and attendings, let malpractice go, punished genuine mistakes harshly, and been hypocritically judgmental as hell about things that were none of his business. He is an interesting character, but he's done a lot of stuff that he should get called out for.

Re: It's because Bailey likes him and respects him that the audience is supposed to.

[philstar22]

Oh I agree. Especially about Adele. The show kind of acknowledges that he isn't always the best to her, but he was completely horrible to her to an extent that the show never acknowledges. And the scene where he demands back into her house when they are separated. That wasn't romantic at all. Just, this show sometimes. I love it, or used to. But it has pretty rigid gender ideas a lot of the time.