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Which I think they were going for - the juxtaposition of what he presented himself as versus what he actually was. Was the one you watched not interspersed with him dragging women off to kill them?

There was such a blowback to this in places like twitter "you're romanticizing a serial killer!" And I think that's the point: I'm old enough to remember the trial, and there were women throwing themselves at him even then. Psychopaths (or Sociopaths - I'm not sure which one he qualifies as) can be charismatic, and they're dangerous precisely for that reason.

Edited 2019-01-31 02:08 (UTC)

okay but unless that's your framing then you're literally just perpetuating this weird image of serial killers as rock stars. ive heard "oh, but it's realistic!" so much and it's like.... okay? so should the goal be to make him look cool because that's "realistic", without any critical lens attached?

I think that is exactly what they are going to try and point out though - people did kind of act like he was a rock star at the time, and the media storm surrounding him did play a part in it. That's the point. If you have seen the film Natural Born Killers, it's a deliberate send-up of this phenomenon, in a very scathing and satirical way.

Psychopaths can be very charismatic because they already have to be to blend in with regular human society, and the fact is that a lot of people are wired to find a "fuck empathy or social mores - I do what I want" attitude to be very attractive (exhibit A: Donald Trump and the fandom surrounding him.)

The media recognizes this and uses it to drive up ratings, and in doing so they do become complicit in turning these people into celebrities on some level. So when people are like "they're glamorizing a serial killer!" that's kind of the point, it was going on while he was on trial, it was part of the whole phenomenon when it was first going on.

you'd think if it was "the point" the reviews would reflect that. if people go away from the movie thinking "why did they make ted bundy look so cool" then, whether or not the movie was "ironically" doing that, it failed. it just played a harmful trope straight.

it reminds me of people claiming that hunger games was making a big point of how media is obsessed with love stories and lol the media are only focusing on the love story in the movie, those idiots!
but really, if it was such a clear message, it would be picked up. if it isn't picked it up then you've reinforced the very thing you're criticising (see: fight club).

blaming the audience for "not getting" satire is just excusing bad satire.

Then the writers run the risk of "talking down" to the people who are picking up on the context or the nuance or the satire.

Edited 2019-01-31 14:41 (UTC)

then they better learn to be good writers?

aside from that, writing is not all that goes into a film. writing. editing, framing, lighting, character/set design, all those things work together. if you're incapable of writing a decent script without being hamfisted about your messages, then the rest of the production staff need to know what they're doing

i forgot sound and music, smh. probably even more things. point is a movie is a lot of parts.

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