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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-02-01 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #4411 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4411 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
Dumbledore is a manipulator who secures the goodwill of the desperate and the outcast in order to secure lifelong loyalty. He put the Boy Who Lived into a situation where he would be desperate and outcast so that Harry, crucial prophecy component, would become one of his game pieces and one of his people.

I don't think Dumbledore was consciously malicious but he never ever stopped telling himself that some things were for the Greater Good. Sure, Harry might be miserable and abused, but his safety was at stake, and Dumbledore's ability to protect the rest of the world, too!

McGonagall told Dumbledore that the Dursleys were a bad family, and Dumbledore ignored her, because he certainly knew that already. He could have checked in during the first 10 years of Harry's life to moderate their behavior, as they do later with the fear of Sirius put into them, among other things. Dumbledore doesn't mind pushing them around, because he does it occasionally once Harry is old enough to remember. Dumbledore could have let Mrs. Figg, loyal order member and regular babysitter, tell Harry that he wasn't a freak or alone and that magic existed, but he has more control of the situation if there's more secrecy and he decides what is revealed when. And Harry is more isolated. And Hogwarts is more special, as the First Beacon of the Wizarding World.

Nobody in the wizarding world *knew where Harry was*. And even if Remus guessed Petunia - and we don't know how much Lily ever talked about her to Remus in particular, and the more she did the more he'd probably NOT suspect it, because she is terrible and Lily would never want that, and Remus had no way to know about the blood protections - like, can you even imagine how that would go? Remus sends a letter and Vernon tosses it out, like all Harry's first 700 Hogwarts letters. Remus, another outcast, assumes his overture is unwanted. Or worse, Remus shows up in Little Whinging in his ratty clothes and Petunia has an absolute shitfit and probably threatens to call the cops on him or god knows what else. Hell, Remus is an order member and an outcast who has his own Eternal Debt to Dumbledore. If Dumbledore says Harry is living somewhere away from the wizarding world for his own safety, Remus would probably abide by it. And after PoA, Harry has just as much ability to write to him, and they do sometimes correspond.

Dumbledore wasn't "outright evil" but he WAS actively hurting Harry. Placing him in an abusive home and insisting he stay there because the GREATEST WIZARDING GENIUS OF THE CENTURY and GREAT MAN WITH INFLUENCE AND RESOURCES can't POSSIBLY brainstorm any other security solutions against a ghost hiding in a bucket in Albania just....doesn't fly with me, sorry. We SEE him being incredibly, coldly manipulative in Deathly Hallows. He is capable of that. He's not malicious, he thinks he is doing the right thing. He's the kind of smart that manipulates himself, too. But he absolutely did deeply morally shady and cruel things on the page, including lead Harry around by the nose emotionally to get a kid into a place where he'd willingly and literally martyr himself. So I don't see why it's so outrageous to suggest that he might have taken steps to ensure that the system he chose to set Harry up in was undisturbed exactly as he set it up.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
it's always a bit awkward when people spout headcanons as gospel

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
Da but it’s not headcanon he left Harry isolated??

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, actually it is. It is canon that he left Harry with the Dursleys for two reasons: so Harry could avoid fame for a little while and it wouldn't go to his head and so that the wards that could only be created using a blood relative could protect Harry from Voldemort and also former death eaters

The idea that Dumbledore told everyone they couldn't contact Harry is headcanon. It doesn't say that anywhere in canon. The idea that Dumbledore was specifically isolating Harry from everyone and everyone isn't even headcanon, it is just wrong (he let Ron and Hermione write to him after they became friends).

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 11:22 am (UTC)(link)
Clearly their argument was strong enough that you didn't have much comeback beyond '...awkward'.