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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-02-03 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #4413 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4413 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-02-03 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
If it makes you feel any better, black people in that era were cool with being presented like this in cartoons.

I mean... it's still an unambiguously racist thing

(Anonymous) 2019-02-03 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Unambiguously? Sure, more of us can see that in 2019. Dumbo was released in 1941. We had a buttload of progress to make, and IMO kind of still do.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-03 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Whether or not Disney was capable of recognizing that it was racist, it was still racist

(Anonymous) 2019-02-04 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yes this.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-04 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course it was racist.

It was just also normalized in the era it was created in, so the answer to "what was he thinking?" is "this is completely normal". Which can be said of a lot of works that are problematic by today's standards.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-04 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
"he made racist stuff because everyone was racist and racism was normalized" is a true statement but I think it's generally better to phrase that in a way that makes it clear that the societal standards that everyone thought was normal were racist, not to let it sit as some kind of value-neutral thing that racist standards were deeply embedded in American culture and entertainment

(Anonymous) 2019-02-06 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Okay. You’ve established that an old cartoon, like every other cartoon of its time, was racist. What do you want to do about it?