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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-02-04 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #4414 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4414 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-02-05 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that war is bad does not mean that every single participant in a war is doing something wrong no matter their reason. It doesn't even mean that all wars are unnecessary, let alone that all soldiers are bad.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-02-05 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
This. I'm not a full-on pacifist, but I think that actually moral wars are few and far between, and even for wars that in a overview are fine, the acts of the good side are often pretty terrible and need to be called out. But that doesn't mean I think every individual soldier is a terrible person or guilty of atrocities. I wish our military was smaller and there were far fewer soldiers. But people who are actually soldiers are serving our country and are not the problem.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-05 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
"But people who are actually soldiers are serving our country and are not the problem"

That is a matter of opinion, and I disagree. How is helping a county to oppress others (lots of wars, maybe most of them) "service" and meritorious?

(Anonymous) 2019-02-05 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
If you're fighting in a war that you know is bunk, you're bad. Fighting for your corporate overlords to get more oil and destabilize countries that have resources they want so they can get it more easily is bad.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-05 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, this right here is an example of a conspiracy theory on the left side of the political spectrum. Really? I was completely against Iraq and mostly against Afghanistan (complicated because Taliban was horrifying, but there probably were other solutions to try). But it wasn't about oil and corporations. They genuinely believed the stuff they said. They were wrong, particularly about the WMDs. But they believed it.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-05 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT but it doesn't all just have to be one thing. Some of them probably believed it; some of them knew they were lying about the WMDs but did it anyway, for political reasons or economic reasons or just because they really did think it was in the best interests of the country.

But regardless, that Iraq was both wrong and evil became clear pretty quick.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-05 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Some of them definitely believed it. Some of them (Cheney in particular) were there to make money. And now Iraq is worse off than it ever was and Afghanistan is still pretty fucked, worse than most Cold War proxy war sites.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-05 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
If you're fighting in a war that you know is bunk, you're bad

There's some truth to this, honestly, but it's so totally dependent on the specific circumstances - both the circumstances of the war and the circumstances of the person.

+1

(Anonymous) 2019-02-05 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
LMAO, seriously.