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I mean, it obviously affects it some, because fandom wouldn't exist otherwise.

Man, normally I wouldn’t say this but I’m home sick from work with a migraine so fuck it—religion has a lot to answer for. Also a lot of beautiful art and stuff but yeah. Also about 85% or more of the sewage resident chump spews is fiction and fuck I wish it had no effect on reality.

I'm sorry you have a migraine but also sorry to say it's obvious in this comment because I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Religion is fiction and so is much of what 45 posts on twitter/says.

Is resident chump referring to trump?

Re: What extent do you think fiction affects reality?

(Anonymous) - 2019-02-10 23:22 (UTC) - Expand

A lot, albeit mostly in complicated, indirect ways

Fiction shapes us but really I think it just exposes us to the consequences of our desires.

But where do those desires come from in the first place

daddy issues probably

Re: What extent do you think fiction affects reality?

(Anonymous) - 2019-02-11 00:24 (UTC) - Expand

This is a really good answer, and I second it.

If someone doesn't have prior knowledge about something, it's common for people to fill in the gaps with fiction if it doesn't seem too out there. Like if someone sees a cat given milk on a tv, they'll assume it's okay to do even though cats are generally lactose intolerant. Otherwise, I feel like people have a good grasp on what's fiction and what's not and make decisions accordingly.

I think our world is shaped by “creative license” in ways we may never come to understand. It’s humbling/scary when I think about what I “know” stripped down to what I’ve directly witnessed/experienced. My worldview and self view is massively constructed on other people’s perspectives whether or not it’s intentional on their part.

I’ve been thinking about what a fraction of human experience the Wild West was but how MANY stories, perspectives, narratives, myths of it I’ve been presented.

Great point!

your example reminds me somewhat of that Simpsons ep that was obviously copying 101 Dalmatians and the scene where they hid the newborn puppies all over the room like Easter eggs for some reason. When I first saw that my immediate thought was I hope nobody tries to actually do this to newborn puppies.

It exposes people to ideas but doesn't control how they perceive them.

Exposing certain ideas vs others over enough time can shape how people perceive new ideas.

For example, when negative stereotypes about Native Americans were so prevalent in the media it was naturally pretty common for people to think of them as aggressive and primitive, but that doesn't mean the general white populace was hypnotized and mind-controlled into believing fiction was fact, it just means that critical reading becomes harder when one treatment is more common than another. In effect, the reality was that people were predisposed to racism and that affected their reading, not the other way around is the way I see it.

Edited 2019-02-10 23:39 (UTC)

More than people are willing to admit, less than some pearl-clutchers would make it out to be. That being, fiction doesn't have zero effect on how people think and feel so I'm leery of ever calling something "just fiction." OTOH it's basically been proven in studies that people don't become more violent from violence in games or more promiscuous from sex on TV.

Fiction does affect us and I'd argue that it should, because fables and morality plays are ways fiction has always, for centuries, been used to help societies learn right from wrong. Taking protagonists' actions as the example we should live up to in reality is not harmful, generally speaking. I'm aware of some examples where authors pushing their agenda through their fiction can be harmful but at least when that happens, we have the ability to question and discuss the fiction and decide whether those are the mores we want to accept.

It does, but usually not that much. People get so weird about how fiction might affect reality tho. If someone reads the Harry Potter books and comes away agreeing with Voldemort that all Muggles should be wiped out, that's on their dumb ass, not on JKR. Same goes with other """""problematic""""" content in other books, movies and television shows.

Idk about video games tho. Playing a serial killer in a video game seems to be a more immersive experience than watching a show or reading a book about one.

If someone reads the Harry Potter books and comes away agreeing with Voldemort that all Muggles should be wiped out, that's on their dumb ass, not on JKR. Same goes with other """""problematic""""" content in other books, movies and television shows.

I mean like... with that specific example, yes, obviously. But I do think that the way that writers present and frame things has an impact on the ways that readers react to it. That doesn't mean that they can entirely *control* how a reader reacts, but there is a relationship, and it's very possible to notice and talk about the literary techniques that writers use to frame and depict things in certain ways.

I thought boys were cooler than girls due to Media.

Same, but the opposite.

IME, many people read fiction (and nonfiction) in ways that reinforce pre-existing stereotypes and biases. To use an example from earlier in this thread, if a person is almost exclusively a fan of mid-century Westerns by white authors and directors, that probably says something.

A late post but a great post

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