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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-02-21 05:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #4431 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4431 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-02-21 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure if we're the same in this regard, but I can relate to your secret at least partially.

Personally, I like knowing that there is some smut in the story somewhere. Seeing that red E on AO3 makes me happy. But 99% of the time, it's the development of the characters' relationship that I live for. The getting to know each other, and the not-quite-realizing that they're falling hard for each other, and the getting shit-scared when they realize they're in too deep, and the pining and the angsting and the denial and the lusting and all of that. Also, if it's written well, I genuinely like a good plot in my fics. I mean, beyond the plot of "they fall in love." I like an actual plot, and a "they fall in love" plot.

Sometimes an author manages to write sexytiems in a way that really, really works for me, and it's a damn precious gift when it happens. But the majority of the time, the sexytiems isn't nearly as delicious to me as what came before it.

And generally the longer the snogging/foreplay/sex scene goes on for the more likely I am to be kind of bored by it. Like, a couple of pages is great, but 4, 5, 6 thousand words? Not my cup of tea.
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[personal profile] silverr 2019-02-21 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Seconding all of this.
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[personal profile] silverr 2019-02-21 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you're doing it wrong at all. I've come to think that there are two types of fans (or two types of fannish impulses/cravings, which can be present simultaneously.) Neither is wrong, they're just different.

So the first is wanting more of what was in the canon, but only what was in the canon. Which often means gen, or fade to black teases, because most canons don't involve explicit love scenes. This type of fan/fannish craving wants more casefic, more well-written character interactions, more adventures, more worldbuilding. More whatever made them love the canon in the first place.

The other type of fan/fannish craving is for what wasn't in the canon. Subtext elaborated, UST resolved, absent backstories developed, bad endings revised. Details of offscreen activity.
Edited 2019-02-22 00:00 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2019-02-22 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Meh. I read shippy stuff for the ~*romance*~ and the ~*emotions*~ and I will often skim over the smut unless it's absolutely plot-relevant. Specially if it's one of those long fics where the author seems to believe that not adding at least a sex scene per chapter is a horrible failure on their part and they must apologize for it.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-22 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
SA

Unless I'm specifically in the mood for smut, of course. In that case I'll skip any fic that has even the slightest semblance of story and go straight for the plotless porn.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-02-22 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Um. No? I don't mind reading smut/xxx written how i like it, but a lot of that stuff *isn't* written how i like it, or is tedious, or concentrates too much on the stuff i don't care about so - i skip a lot of smut in fics, too.

I like shipping, i like gen, i like some smut.... You do you, whatever makes you happy is the whole point.
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[personal profile] nightscale 2019-02-22 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Tbh when it comes down to what you like to read there isn't really a wrong way to do fandom, however it works for you is right.

Personally I enjoy smut in fic along with squishy feelings and straight-up kinky porn does nothing for me, I gotta have the characters showing care and concern for one another otherwise I just find it meh. But that doesn't mean that anyone who enjoys 'nothing but kinky smut' fics is doing it wrong because they're simply enjoying fandom how they like, and that's okay.

You're good OP, keep doing what you're doing. :)

(Anonymous) 2019-02-22 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I love reading plotty anything. And I love shippy fic, but often I skip the sex scenes unless they're really well done. And it sort of depends how many there are. Is there one sex scene in the fic, or is it obligatory sex every few chapters?

I tend to write genfic, or shippy fic with a Teen rating. According to AO3, I've written 300K, and only one of those was Explicit (and that one I consider the porn to be very relevant to the plot).
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[personal profile] alwaysbeenasmiler 2019-02-22 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
I actually sort of relate to this! I mean I don't read a whole lot of fic, but I do read romance novels-- and generally I skip over the sex scenes, because if I've read them once, I've read them all (I've become so desensitized to it) but oh if an author can make me love the characters and not have READ the smut in order to believe in their chemistry, that is like the highest praise. And if I don't like the characters, then really I don't want to read the smut anyways.

I know, I'm wierdc

(Anonymous) 2019-02-22 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
You're definitely not doing anything wrong. I have no interest in reading/writing smutty things, so I just skip over those parts of fics. My fandom friends all know this and don't ask me to beta or read over those types of scenes.

For me, it doesn't take anything away from the fic because nothing plot related happens during the smut, and everyone else gets to have the smut they want.

I actually miss the days when two versions of fic were posted one of the NC-17 of-age people and a G version for the underage people. I always read the G version.
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[personal profile] 11thmirror 2019-02-22 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
Generally if I want smut I look for PWP; if I'm not specifically seeking smut I'll just skim and explicit sex scenes. So the sex scene in the middle of that brilliant 100,00 word fic could be a really great sex scene, but I'm probably never gonna read it properly, because when I want plot I want plot, and porn just doesn't mesh neatly with plot for me.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-22 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'm almost the exact opposite. I only really enjoy explicit sex scenes when they are embedded in and intrinsically part of a story I am invested in, and advance plot or characterization, or (hottest) both

(Anonymous) 2019-02-22 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Seconding this. I'm not sure I've ever really enjoyed a true PWP. I can get into a well-crafted smutty fic that's upwards of 6K or so. I find that's enough time for a good author to craft some decent build-up, so that it's not just horny characters fucking. But ideally I definitely prefer more plot and build-up than that.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-22 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
This is me, too.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-22 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
I don't care if there's smut or not (read and write it sometimes and sometimes not) as long as there isn't a whole puritan "no sex before marriage" vibe going on. Especially, if it's only a main female character.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-22 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
This is how I feel too and honestly so many people say they skip sex scenes, but anecdotally all the explicit fics I've written tend to get far higher views/kudos. So. What is the truth?

(Anonymous) 2019-02-22 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with every part of this secret. If you're doing fandom wrong, OP, so am I.