[ SECRET POST #4431 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4431 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 11 secrets from Secret Submission Post #634.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Look, you can sit there and cry about it if you want to, but the fact is that we still live in an unbalanced society where "gay" is still fairly tantamount to "bad" and yes it actually does say something if you are averse to gay fiction. No one actually cares if all you want to read is het, but when you make a thing out of it, it's not a good look.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with you. But this secret isn't about het women who make a thing about not shipping f/f. It's about people who make a thing out of het women who don't ship f/f, rather than just letting them do them.

[(Anonymous)]

DA but the secret is a step beyond that. It’s not about het women who don’t ship f/f. It’s about het women who ship f/f while simultaneously shaming them for liking m/m. The old “you have internalized misogyny” gotcha card people like to bust out. People need to stop with this false equivalency of pitting m/m and f/f against each other because the former isn’t stealing anything from the latter.

[(Anonymous)]

What on earth, nobody is shaming anyone for liking m/m

[(Anonymous)]

explain the shit slinging about girls liking m/m in the comments then.

[(Anonymous)]

I am genuinely asking, what shit-slinging?

if you're talking about the one gay dude, I would be hard pressed to call anything he said "shit slinging"

[(Anonymous)]

The original comment that the secret is talking about is not about het women who don't ship f/f. The original comment is about het women who don't ship f/f for the specific reason that they can't relate to a lesbian relationship, while also shipping m/m.

I don't know how people ITT are this bad at reading the secret.

[(Anonymous)]

You're the one misunderstanding what "relate" means to in this context; it's clearly in terms of sexual/romantic fantasy.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you saying that's how the people who originally posted the comments on Tumblr were using it?

[(Anonymous)]

I can't speak for AYRT, but yes, I think it's pretty clear that's what most het women mean when they say that.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you think that it was clear to the people who wrote the Tumblr comments that are included in the secret?

Because, I mean, those Tumblr comments don't even make sense on the most basic level if you interpret "I can't relate to an F/F pairing" to mean "I can't relate to wanting to fuck women" but they make perfect sense if you interpret it to mean "I can't relate to characters in a F/F relationship". Which also seems like a pretty straightforward interpretation of the phrase.

But people ITT are talking about how the Tumblr comments are shaming women for shipping M/M, and trying to force women into feeling obligated to ship F/F. So it's confusing to me.

[(Anonymous)]

You're the one misunderstanding what "relate" means to in this context; it's clearly in terms of sexual/romantic fantasy.

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