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⌈ Secret Post #4438 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

On the one hand, I agree. On the other hand, while I don't agree with asking individual women to explain their kinds, I think that sexism plays a role in what kinks are more popular among women vs. men. I'd look at both women and men because it has a role in both. But it does have a role.

[(Anonymous)]

I would say that because of sexism and misogyny, a lot of women have complex, not altogether positive feelings about procreation and pregnancy. Therefore, it makes perfect sense that many women want to explore issues of procreation and pregnancy without having to feel a compulsory sense of identification with the character who is pregnant.

In short, I don't think there's anything inherently misogynistic about mpreg. But I do think pervasive sexism and misogyny are a significant factor in why some women prefer mpreg to het preg.

[(Anonymous)]

many women want to explore issues of procreation and pregnancy without having to feel a compulsory sense of identification with the character who is pregnant

Huh? I literally don't understand what you're trying to say here. Why would they feel a compulsory sense of identification with that character?

[(Anonymous)]

If you don't get it, I don't think explaining it to you is going to help, but ok. We all identify with different characters to different degrees, and we all have our reasons for why we identify strongly with some characters and not with others. When a highly sex-or-genderized event happens to a female character, some women feel a sense of identification with that female character whether they want to or not. (This really shouldn't be confusing. I never see anyone question why most men react more strongly than most women to seeing a male character get kicked in the nuts.) So when a female character gets knocked up, for example, their empathy with the character makes them imagine it a bit as though it were happening to them. Whereas when a male character gets knocked up, some women find they can hold it a bit more at arms length. Close enough to get into it, but not so close that it's climbing all over them, so to speak.

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It's also telling that mpreg isn't at all popular with men.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd change that to "most men" - I've seen m!preg bara manga made by and for gay men, though it generally plays out differently than the fanfic variant.

[(Anonymous)]

This. The anon you're responding to must be intentionally obtuse or dumb as rocks because this is just basic human behaviour. There's a reason women are more adverse to watching shit like Game Of Thrones because it's chock full of women being gratuitously raped (that's filmed in a way that's meant to be titillating, no less) while men don't care or argue "durr it's historically accurate so it's okay!". Obviously most men aren't gonna give a shit about women being exploited or victimized because it's not something they can relate to or identify with.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I don't get it at all, because the thought of personally being pregnant is objectively horrifying to me, but I enjoy reading stories about my favorite female characters starting families specifically because they're NOT me and so I can enjoy them having a desire to have children and then having children because it's something that's completely separate from me and my own wants and dislikes and feelings.

[(Anonymous)]

Well of course it has a role. It has a role in everything, like who buys what color cars and who watches which reality shows and which social circles use sports metaphors and all of that. It's everywhere and in everything we do.

Part of the way sexism plays out is that men are assumed default and very rarely are pushed to question themselves, whereas women are expected to second-guess ourselves constantly, especially in any area related to sex.

For women, part of throwing off sexist conditioning might just be saying, "This turns me on because it just does, and that's OK, and I don't need to justify or explain myself to anyone." Amazing how that's a controversial statement even in spaces that are largely by us and for us. Sexism encourages us to always think there's something wrong with us.