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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-02 03:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #4440 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-03-02 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh. Sorry, but some beliefs are just kooky enough that when you find out someone sincerely holds that belief, it calls their judgment into serious question about everything else. It's like talking to someone who SEEMS okay but then they happen to mention that oh yeah, and they believe the earth is flat or the moon landing is fake or Queen Elizabeth is really a lizard person. If that happens, I'm outta there.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-02 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know a ton about JG so maybe someone else can weigh in, but his beliefs seem less 'the earth is flat' and more 'there are certain natural occurring scents such as catnip that can have a positive effect on your animal'.

And he fully supports proper veterinary treatment, I know a couple of cats I have seen him rehabilitate involved actually putting the cats on anti-psychotics.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-02 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
"there are certain natural occurring scents such as catnip that can have a positive effect on your animal" is a different thing than homeopathy, though.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-02 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah that's why I am wondering if OP meant the term homeopathy literally, or whether there's things he says/does that I don't know about other than basically... cat aromatherapy.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-02 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess there's a chance that OP doesn't understand what homeopathy means and isn't using the term correctly, but it's not a catch-all phrase for "stuff that hasn't been scientifically proven". I assumed they're using it literally... which is to say, "correctly".
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2019-03-02 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
At least some of the stuff he sells is associated with reiki. (Which is weird, because I thought reiki involved directly touching the patient, and this seems to involve touching the ingredients that are then applied to the animal.)

(Anonymous) 2019-03-02 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
It's just another degree of pseudoscience, really. If people believe you can affect other peoples' energies by touch, then it's not that far of a step to believe you can do it with inanimate objects as well. None of it is provable or backed up by science, it's all what sounds good to gullible audiences.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-02 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Not the person you replied to or OP.

THANK YOU! re: Reiki! I had a friend that was into Reiki and I couldn't talk sense into him about how he can't help or heal people without even laying his hands on them. (And, yes, I know he couldn't even heal them by placing his hands on their arms.) Just a bunch of cosmic woo-woo! Ugh! Just because it's Asian, that doesn't mean it works.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-03 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. I get how people like the idea of it and wish it were true, or why they'd want to believe that touch is literally healing, etc. but... that's just wishful thinking. You can't always save people from their bullshit, unfortunately.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-03 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT. And my friend is an atheist that loves science! So how could he fall for chakras and Reiki?!

(Anonymous) 2019-03-03 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
People are weird like that. Maybe it's just me, but when a lot of people say they "love science" they kind of mean that in a very vague, general way. They like the abstract concept of it; they don't love it in the sense that they understand what the scientific method is or how to apply it to everyday life.

Also when it comes to woo woo stuff like this, a lot of people pride themselves on their supposed skepticism because it means they're smart and not gullible... except that they're not really that skeptical. This plays out on dozens of ghost hunting/paranormal shows like this:

"My name is Jeff and I'm a skeptic! I believe in science blah blah love science blah blah blah and I'm in this ALLEGEDLY haunted house to find out what's REALLY going on." /brandishes an EMF reader like it means something

[spooky sound that sounds like a rock being thrown at a brick wall*

"OMG OMG OMG NOTHING IN REAL LIFE COULD'VE CAUSED THAT SOUND LIKE A ROCK BEING THROWN AT A WALL IT'S CLEARLY A POLTERGEIST!!!!!!"

(Anonymous) 2019-03-03 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, unfortunately he does sell actual homeopathy. It's weird because otherwise he's really good with things like cat behaviour, human behaviour, environmental stresses and seeing things from the cat's POV, but then actual homeopathy.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-03 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
That'd be a big "thanks but nah" from me, then. Homeopathy is such blatant woo woo bullshit designed to part fools and their money that I'd never be able to trust him on anything else. At best, he's got poor judgment. At worst, he's a charlatan, selling water to gullible people who need real help.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-03 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I just want to chime in, as someone with "family" working with homeopathy and reiki, some people genuinely do believe it. I thought it was a rich/upper middle-class thing tho ngl, I'm very surprised Jackson Galaxy is into it.


My mom tried to treat her cat with homeopathy some hack recommended to her because she didn't want him to be "drowsy" from regular medication (he had epilepsy), idk where people get these ideas. Though if people here say that Jackson Galaxy still strongly supports regular medicine then I think I can overlook it.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-03 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I don't doubt that there are people who sincerely believe it - that's what I'd categorize as poor judgment...and ignorance, and lack of critical thinking skills. Stuff like reiki might be a granola thing which is more upper middle class, but it's based on ignorance and gullibility, which transcends socio-economic classes.

IMO, the fact that he does recommend actual medical treatment doesn't mitigate it. Unless I misunderstand, you don't take homeopathic treatments if you're fine. You take it because you have a problem. If Galaxy is acting like homeopathy is a legit option, then he's selling snake oil to people who need real medicine. It's NOT a legitimate treatment on par with seeing a vet.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-03 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I dont see him trying to actually cure diseases though? Like for actual anxiety disorders, heart disease, and stuff like that, the audience sees him assessing the situation and demanding a vet get involved and medications being prescribed.

'Your cat will probably like this combination of herbal scents and it will have a beneficial effect on his mood' is not nearly the same thing, and isn't even really anti-science, though the marketing probably woos it up some, because rich people love that.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-03 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
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Yeah that's the impression I always got? Like I haven't seen a lot of his stuff, but the bits of eps I have seen, he's been pretty sensible about, "Okay I think you need to bring them to the vet because there's potentially something medical going on here." when need be.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-03 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, he consistently tells owners to take the cat to the vet to have it checked out if the other attempts to get it to change its behavior aren't working. He outright says that one of the biggest causes of cats acting out is untreated medical issues, so...