[ SECRET POST #4444 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4444 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom]


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[Mary Skelter]


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[The Final Table, Charles and Rodrigo]


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[Altered Carbon]


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[Katie Perry/Orlando Bloom engagement]


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[Fandom: Fruits Basket]










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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Lots of of older movies are racist sexist it's how times evolve look at most John Hughes movies racist, rape jokes, doesn't mean you can't enjoy the movie, just have to be aware I guess ps I have never seen this movie but I just wanted to point it out.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I feel like it's just a thing different people navigate differently

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but +1

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but some older movies people get really angry about defending - as if because they like something, it can't be racist or sexist or whatever. "It's racist but I still enjoy the movie" or "I wish they could have made it less racist" or even "It was made in the 80s but it really digs in to the 30s adventure movie vibe, including the racism" is all ok. "I don't like it because of the racism" is also ok. "It's not racist HDU!!!!" is just ridiculous.

[(Anonymous)]

Well... sure? I don't see where OP is implying you can't enjoy the movie. I don't see where anyone in the thread is insisting that nobody can enjoy the movie. Why did you think it needed pointing out?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a firm believer that teaching the context is important and preferable to telling people not to see old media (it's all our history, warts and all, and it's wrong to pretend it didn't happen), and I am also a firm believer that you can consume and enjoy flawed, problematic things and appreciate the good parts (or at least appreciate the window into history and society) without self-flagellation as long as you are aware of why other parts are a problem.

However, "It's old" or "It was the times" doesn't mean it isn't racist or wasn't racist or can't ever be racist. It's an explanation for *why* it's racist and for how it got made and distributed and why the people with power over those decisions were fine with it, but it doesn't mean *everyone* at the time felt it was inoffensive or that it didn't perpetuate harmful stereotypes. A movie that's racist now was racist in the past.

Temple of Doom's issue is more that it's attempt to portray a certain kind of older pulp adventure with racial stereotypes that were already outdated in the 1980s.