[ SECRET POST #4444 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4444 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom]


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03.
[Mary Skelter]


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[The Final Table, Charles and Rodrigo]


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05.
[Altered Carbon]


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[Katie Perry/Orlando Bloom engagement]


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[Fandom: Fruits Basket]










Notes:

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That's... not what queerbaiting is, though. Queerbaiting is when the creator builds up a potential queer relationship and makes it seem like it's legitimately going to become canon, and then pulls a "WELL ACTUALLY" and backs away from it. None of the subtext in Furuba save for possibly Akito and Shigure was ever given any sort of implication that it was anything more than just that: subtext. It wasn't bait-and-switch because there was never any chance that it was going to be canon, and in fact two of the het ships I mentioned (Haru/Rin and Ayame/Mine) were made canon fairly early on, as was the Kyo-Tohru-Yuki love triangle.

[(Anonymous)]

You can keep insisting that "putting in gay bait isn't bait because het ships were the intention all along!!", reaching-diehard-furuba-fan anon, that doesn't make it any less fujobait. Nor does it make it any less problematic or irritating. There's a reason many are frustrated with Fruits Basket for doing this and it's entirely justifiable.

[(Anonymous)]

You say 'fairly early on' but Rin doesn't even /appear/ until volume 8, by which point Hatsuharu had shown interest in Yuki from his very first appearance. Mine isn't confirmed to be Ayame's girlfriend until volume 19, well into the series and after multiple instances of the series teasing that he might like men. That is not 'fairly early on.' The series teases Ayame being possibly gay for at least 19 volumes before deciding nope he's straight.

And honestly even if it wasn't queerbaiting, using 'ha ha this male character says things about loving this other male character but not like serious romantic love' as a joke doesn't make the series look any better, frankly.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but didn't Ayame perv on girls sometimes too? I swear I remember him joking about peeping on girls in the bath at one point or something similar...

[(Anonymous)]

In all honesty, I can accept that Ayame is bi, but that doesn't change the fact that his behaviors leaned heavily into queer tropes for the majority of his screen time but the only relationship that is depicted is a heterosexual one.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT - From Wikipedia: "Queerbaiting is the practice of hinting at, but then not actually depicting, a same-sex romantic relationship between characters in a work of fiction, mainly in film or television. The potential romance may be ignored, explicitly rejected or made fun of."

Given previous anon's examples, there's some pretty damn big "hints", especially regarding Haru and Ayame. Shigure and Akito is definitely a bait-and-switch because regardless of what the overall plan was or even the genre conventions, the readers were still led to believe it was a same-sex relationship until the reveal.

[(Anonymous)]

So you admit that Akito and Shigure, at least, was queerbaiting. It was the most damning one at that.