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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-06 05:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #4444 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4444 ⌋

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[Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom]


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[Mary Skelter]


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[The Final Table, Charles and Rodrigo]


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[Altered Carbon]


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[Katie Perry/Orlando Bloom engagement]


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[Fandom: Fruits Basket]










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thewakokid: (Default)

[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-03-07 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yup, that's how I help people to see things from my POV. By insulting them. Works a treat.

Sad thing is, the monkey brains thing is a fine example of stereotyping and you could easily have made the case for that as racism.

But you needed to put people down to show you good and smart you are so you just fucked the opportunity.
Edited 2019-03-07 09:06 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2019-03-07 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Not everything is about teaching. People don't have some sort of responsibility to teach everyone who is racist not to be racist. Sometimes it is okay just to be pissed off at racism.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-07 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but if you believe the person you are talking to is being a racist, you have three option in front of you:

1. Try and understand them, and if you are right try and help reduce the amount of racism by bringing them round.

2. Disengage and walk away.

3. Don't bother with any of that, Be angry, be hateful, be insulting, fix nothing and be an infant because it feels better to go off at someone than actually trying to make the world a little better does.

People who care about fixing racism do the first two.

People who care about being seen to be angry about racism do the third one. Too many people too eager to give in to self indulgent tantrums because it feels good. Myself included, mind. I typically also take the "I don't want a solution, I want to feel good approach." but as i'm sure you'll find out from many people here I'm not a very good person. Not that I try to be a bad person, but yeah, you can't take the easy fun option and still call yourself any kind of moral arbiter.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-07 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Making racism socially unacceptable is a useful tool in fighting racism.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-07 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
For shutting down the assholes out there, sure. Kindly explaining shit to people who are merely ignorant, but not hateful is even more useful.

Signed,

Minority anon

(Anonymous) 2019-03-07 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, I'm willing to agree with that. But I don't agree with the idea that calling someone a racist means that you don't actually care about ending racism, as was said.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-03-07 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
But that's not what I was talking about:

"fuck is wrong with your brain" was open hostility towards someone who was not expressing any hostility of their own.

All that will do is increase this person experience of hostility related to race, and make the next person who talks to that anon about racism have a harder job.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-07 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that it was rude (I also get where they were coming from; it really is kind of a gobsmacking question to ask) but I don't think it means that the person who said it doesn't care about ending racism.