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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-06 05:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #4444 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4444 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom]


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[Mary Skelter]


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[The Final Table, Charles and Rodrigo]


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[Altered Carbon]


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[Katie Perry/Orlando Bloom engagement]


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[Fandom: Fruits Basket]










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[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-03-07 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Ofcourse, the british in that move are not on anyone's side but the British. this is not in dispute. But they are seen there in the luxury place with the other people who could be called the oppressors enjoying the finery while people are starving.

I'm not sure where your objection to this is "If the british aren't shown to be the only people benefiting from the oppression of the poor it's not real oppression?" seems to be the angle you're playing. Like remove the british officer from the film all together my initial point about how the indians are shown in two distinct groups one oppressed the other in opulence. The british in that film were the honour guests of the Maharaja, yes? The wealth was shown clearly to be divided between the oppressed and the wealthy ruling class, of which, yes, the british officer was a part.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-07 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that there are two separate groups of Indian characters. My point is that the people in Pankot Palace are not presented as being evil because they're too influenced by the British, as you suggested. They're evil because they are reviving a specifically Indian murder cult. The British are present in the palace, but they're not on the same side as the Indians, and in fact the two groups are separate and opposed to each other.

So my point is that the movie portrays the Indians in the palace as evil, and it portrays their evil as specifically linked to Indian religion, culture, and history. The fact that it links their evil to anti-colonialism, and specifically makes the British colonial forces (who are presented as being distinct from either group of Indians) the good guy cavalry at the end, only compounds that problem.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-07 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. When white people do human sacrifice in cinema (Wicker Man, 1973), it's presented as both very unusual and extremely fucked up.

When non-white people do it (King Kong, Temple of Doom, some versions of Tarzan, id put The Mummy on the list), that's just a part of their culture. And it's traditionally been such a cliche for "savages" to sacrifice damsels in distress that we even have idioms for it.