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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-08 05:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #4446 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4446 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-08 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, Luther? You shut her in a cell overnight with neither food, water, meds, or even a fucking book to read for distraction. That freak out at the house is on *you*.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-08 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2019-03-08 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Luther's decision-making skills are just...bad.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-08 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's a running theme of the whole show.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-08 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously? She had just slit Allison's throat. She's lucky they didn't kill her.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-08 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
And ALLISON, who knew the whole story, begged him to let her go. Literally everyone else told him "this is a bad idea/this is wrong" and he didn't listen.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-08 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
This is gonna be an agree to disagree situation because I think Allison was reacting emotionally and not logically. Letting Vanya out when she is unstable enough to slit her own sister's throat and murder her boyfriend is a bad idea. If someone is in the middle of a psychotic break and armed with deadly weapons, you disarm and restrain them before anything else. Vanya is the weapon, she had to be isolated. Yeah, it turned out badly, but let's say they didn't lock her up. Who's to say someone wouldn't have set her off anyway? Allison was talking calmly and not threatening her at all when she started tearing shit up in the cabin. She only started to rumor her in response to Vanya's very real threat. And maybe locking her up was a bad idea, but only because the best idea would have been to kill her.*

*One of my main complaints about the show is that it sucked at establishing relationships between the other siblings, save Allison, and Vanya. Their connections were so tenuous that killing her did seem like an option to me, and I wasn't surprised when they decided to attack her in the last act. That is some deeply shitty writing.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely going to agree to disagree but I do want to address some of your points.

Her attack on Allison was a) in reaction to Allison's "attack" which while technically nonviolent did involve essentially mind control and what was upsetting Vanya to begin with, and b) a complete accident that she immediately BSOD'd about.

Her killing Harold was not an accident, sure, but he was an asshole and she'd just found out he was manipulating her and her entire family, encouraging her trauma and fear, and then screaming at her.

If anything, Luther was reacting emotionally, not Allison. Vanya came to him for help, BEGGING for help, asking about Allison and trying to explain that it was an accident, and he choked her out and locked her up before he knew the whole story. The only other person who knew what happened in the cabin was Allison, so IMO it was her call to make, which she tried again at the theater.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
+100000 Could not agree with this comment more.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-08 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
She slit Allison's throat after Allison tried to mind control her.

Yes, Allison was desperate. Yes, Allison truly believed she was protecting Vanya, and had good reason to believe that. But the fact remains, Vanya should still have had a right to make her own decisions about where she was going to go and with whom. Her decisions in that scene were VERY BAD decisions, but that doesn't mean Allison had a right to forcibly take away her choice. And the particular way that Allison controls people is especially disturbing, because she doesn't just force them to do something - she takes a part of a person's mind away from them.

What Allison did was an attack. Vanya reacted reflexively to Allison's attack, by lashing out. I don't think Vanya's actions were good actions, but I also understand why she did what she did in the moment.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Plus she'd literally just found out that Allison's power had essentially stripped her of her own (thanks again, Reginald, you asshole), and was the (partial) cause of her feeling useless and unwanted for her entire life. That was the worst possible time for a rumor, especially when no one had a clue what she was even capable of at the time.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. With the state Vanya is in it wouldn't be a surprise if she heard Allison's "I heard a rumor..." and mentally finished the sentence with something such as "...that you don't have any powers."

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Or anything, honestly. The show made it clear that Allison's power isn't to be taken lightly, and she vowed to stop using it for a reason.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-08 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Luther locking her in the same barren cell where she was subjected to traumatizing solitary confinement as a small child was just unutterably stupid, and also cruel.

And ok, the argument over whether it was a justifiable action is...complicated. I lean towards it not being justifiable, but I can see why Luther might feel it was a necessary precaution. But setting aside the ethics of it, and the cruelty of it - it was just really, really stupid.

They knew she was powerful. They didn't know how powerful. They locked her up...and never bothered to think, "You know, in the event that she's powerful enough to break out of here, we'll have made ourselves her enemies"? Stupid, stupid, stupid!