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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-08 05:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #4446 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4446 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-08 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
But but, he only took her out of power because he doesn't respect women! Or something.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-08 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Harriet Jones: You're not here all the time and we need to take things into consideration ourselves

The Doctor: Well then I'm going to treat you like a child, show exactly how much power I have over you, and then leave again

And as anon said on another comment, his actions paved the way for Saxon to take over while he disappeared again, which kinda proved her point.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-08 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that his solution to the problem was not good, but I disagree that her actions were understandable or reasonable. She was not in the right!

(Anonymous) 2019-03-08 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Understandable isn't the same as right. I think what she did was wrong, but I also think it was an understandable reaction to what happened. The Doctor would leave, and maybe the Sycorax would come back. She had no way of knowing.

She was wrong. Absolutely wrong. But there is a level of wrong that makes it okay to intervene in someone else's government. She was in no way near to that level. He didn't have the right. She was wrong, but he was way more wrong than she was.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, where exactly do you draw that line? The reason he was wrong was because he responded in a way that was arbitrary and capricious and based more on his wounded pride than on making a substantive change. And obviously those are all big themes in the show. But I am not sure why you're drawing the line there and whether it's not just because it's the kind of violence we consider normal in our society.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I personally would draw the line at outright dictators/villain leaders. Otherwise, the Doctor intervening to change who is in charge of a government that is not his own isn't okay to me.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
But "dictator" and "villain" - those are pretty wonky categories. Like, "villain" is just an index of how the show portrays a character, isn't it? And dictator is tough because it's pretty easy to imagine a society that's not dictatorial, that's totally democratic and open, and also does completely horrible awful things. So again, I just think it's difficult to figure out these lines. And murdering retreating enemies is a pretty bad thing to do.