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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-08 05:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #4446 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4446 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

"I didn’t see any problem with Belle being feminist or shamed for reading, since those both are tenets of the 1991 film."

Ehh... I mean, yes, sort of. But in the cartoon, the villagers don't view Belle's reading with outright hostility, they just think it an odd habit. In the live action version exaggerates it quite a bit with Belle getting bullied by the other villagers for daring to try and teach a little girl to read.

I don't have an issue with Belle being feminist; I just think the live action version didn't handle that well. Ditto her being an inventor - it's a neat idea, but a token one. Do we ever see it in action? Does it play a significant role at all?

IA that Belle's gown was hideous. It looked cheap, like a costume version you'd buy at Walmart. The fuss about the corset seemed more a reaction to the Cinderella film than any sort of concrete statement about feminism in general.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
There was a great quote about Belle's gown verse Cinderella's in live action, but I forget who said it. It was something like "Cinderalla's dress was a wedding dress and Bella's was a bridesmaid's dress designed so that they don't outshine the bride." I hated that yellow monstrosity so much. Why was it that color? It photographed horribly.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
I think they felt like they wanted to do justice to how iconic the dress was in the cartoon version but fell well short of the mark. That shade of yellow didn't suit Watson's coloring at all, and it didn't help that the fabric looked like cheap satin and gauze... like a budget Prom dress. They really should've put more effort into making it look as rich as a ball gown would have been. Real silk, real embroidery, etc.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT—I don’t think the exaggeration of, hmm, the negative treatment of the heroine from the animated to the live action versions of Disney films is unique to Beauty and the Beast.

I remember being frustrated with the live action Cinderella because having raised a question the animated one never outright does—why does Cinderella not just leave her abusive “family” behind—her answer is that she can’t bring herself to leave the place her father/parents loved so much.

It felt... fake, like she should’ve been hiding another, less twee reason—depressed misery, anger, stubborness—behind that answer and the film was so committed to her being sweetness and light that there wasn’t room. Likewise Lady Tremaine’s outburst about why she hates Cinderella felt like shorthand, but it’s still way darker than anything said in the animated version.

And while Maleficent was a reimagining of Sleeping Beauty, both the very thinly veiled rape-metaphor of Maleficent herself, and the fact that Aurora’s mother dies and her father is a conniving madman are way darker than Disney’s animated version gets.

I would be very surprised if any of the new live action (for a given value of live, cough cough Lion King cough) movies end up lighter in tone or even as light as the Disney originals.

I don’t necessarily think Disney’s done a good job of inserting darker moments into their remakes, but Beauty and the Beast isn’t the only one it’s happened to.