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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-13 05:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #4451 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4451 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 18 secrets from Secret Submission Post #637.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-13 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I think fandom thinks the only way to prevent a male friendship from queerbaiting is to have them show no real fondness for each other, just incessantly call each other "bro" and talk about stereotypical straight man things like how much they love to fuck women.

You know, like actual straight men think they need to act because anything else is too gay. Fans who go on anti-queerbaiting screeds are virtually indistinguishable from dudebros.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-14 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. I mean, what do people think a pair like these two are going to act like? You know someone for literally six thousand years, you fight against them and with them and for them, you gradually redefine your place in the honest-to-god cosmic order because of them, you go from enemies bent on sabotaging each other to being the first person either of you want to contact under stress, you face the end of days together and basically say ‘fuck you’ to both your sides to manage it … I mean, there’s going to be feelings there. There’s going to be moments of comfort and teasing and shielding each other and clinging to each other. Not because of anything remotely to do with sex, but because you’ve spent six thousand years together and almost died side by side at the end of it.

Don’t get me wrong, I ship A/C like FedEx and have since I was a teenager, and if they happen to kiss/have sex on screen I’m gonna be right there in a heartbeat, but … there was nothing I saw in any trailer that struck me as anything other than ‘I’m supposed to hate this person but I’ve spent six thousand years getting to know them better than anyone on my own side bothered to get to know me, and fuck it, if we’re all about to die, it might as well be beside them and for something we actually believe in’. Which, you know. Is beautiful in its own right.

(Not gonna lie, though, that shot of Aziraphale sheltering Crowley under his wing hit both my wing and hurt/comfort kinks HARD and catapulted my brain right straight into happy time – I’m just self aware enough to realise that this is mostly my own brain going hnnngh, me likey!)

Also, STOP TALKING TO THE CREATORS ABOUT THESE THINGS! For real, why is this such a thing these days?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-14 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Right? Honestly, my take on why this is now a thing is because people like the tumblr user who messaged Gaiman in the secret believe it's not just them pestering a creator about something they want to see. They've convinced themselves it's a form of activism to "friendly reminder" the creator that the work they created isn't gay enough.