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[philstar22]

Okay, American here. But my understanding is that College and University are two different words for the same thing.

[(Anonymous)]

What you call College we call University, but my "high school" was (fancy name) College and a lot of people call it College. So kind of no?

[philstar22]

Oh, okay. We also call them universities here. I've heard both words used interchangeably here. Never heard college used for high school, though. Always used to mean the same as university.

[(Anonymous)]

In the UK, college (and sixth form, which is the last two years of "high school") is considered Further Education, the one you do between roughly 16 and 18. Sixth forms and colleges sometimes offer different subjects, colleges are much more likely to offer apprenticeship schemes or sometimes by sixteen you just want to leave school and go to an environment with fewer eleven-year-olds or just want a change of scene after five years in the same school. I believe these days it's compulsory to stay in education or training until you're 18, in my day you could walk out into the world at 16 and skip further education altogether.

University is considered Higher Education and almost exclusively 18+

(School is General Education.)

[(Anonymous)]

It's compulsive to stay in education unless you have a part time job AND are in some form of education/training or have a traineeship/apprenticeship, just for clarity.

But yeah, I'm also in the UK and went to college AND university, definitely were not the same thing. It's further complicated by colleges offering higher education courses.

[tree_and_leaf]

And Oxbridge (or Durham, and there are probably some I'm forgetting) colleges, of course.

[(Anonymous)]

Can't speak for all of Canada, but for where I am, University usually carries more clout, provides more in depth courses (like if you want to be a Care Aide you go to college, but if you wanna be a nurse or doctor, you go to university), and is vastly more expensive than college. It's definitely not interchangeable.

[(Anonymous)]

In USAmerica, the technical difference is that University generally refers to research institutions, whereas colleges tend to be smaller and more teaching-focused. Both categories contain better-regarded and less-regarded schools, although universities might be a little more impressive across the board.

In colloquial speech, though, the two are used pretty interchangeably anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

West coast Canadian here, and the way I've always seen college talked about is as something that's largely interchangeable with the first couple of years of University.

Like, people in smaller communities, or with less money, or who got low grades in high school will often go to college to get their first two years of post secondary education, and then take the credits they earned from those first two years and transfer to a university to finish out their degree. Some colleges also offer a select few degree programs that allow you to complete all four years of your program through the college, but most of the time that doesn't seem to be an option.

I grew up in a smallish town, and definitely most of my friends went to the community college for their first couple of years of post secondary before transferring to a university to complete their degree.

Or, like you said, you can also take shortened career-focused courses through a college - like an accelerated two year course that earns you some kind of certificate of qualification for a particular job but doesn't earn you a degree.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's actually the same in the U.S.A.
Like... however "college" is just a catch all term. The biggest differences between State, University, and Community College. University are the ones that are harder to get in and have lower acceptance rate and extremely expensive whereas State and Community are more lenient and affordable (still expensive though).

[ayebydan]

Hard no for Scotland. You get degrees at university. You go to college for specialized skills in things like hair dressing, carpentry ect or to get a middle ground qualification of your high school subjects. Harder than high school, not as hard as university. Colleges also offer a lot of courses for people out of work either because they can't get a job or are not signed on for health reasons to help them back into the work place. So I have a certificate in conversational Spanish from a college but it has nothing on my first year uni qualifications in German for example. You can do college courses in things like child minding or art while you are still in school but you cannot do anything uni related until you graduate. In Europe they are very separate things doing way separate things.

[(Anonymous)]

Basically university is for the elites, while college is for the every man.

[ayebydan]

Which part of Scotland are you in? That has not been the case for a long time? I was probs one of the richest in my graduating class and my parents don't clear 40k between them.

All my mates who wanted to go to uni did, poor or not.

[(Anonymous)]

You mean your parents didn't bribe anyone and paste your face onto a photo of a water polo player?

[ayebydan]

Sorry, dad didn't deliver enough parcels at work for that. I just had to work my ass off and hope. Sorry to disappoint

[(Anonymous)]

Colleges also have access courses like HNDs that you can use to enter uni in third year.

[ayebydan]

*nods*

[philstar22]

Wait, so, high school ends and then people don't go directly to university? Here you go straight from high school to university/college most of the time, unless you choose to take a gap year or something. High school for us runs until 18/19.

[ayebydan]

No they can go straight to uni, or college. It depends what you want to study. But we end high school at 17/18. We can leave after our first set of exams at 16 if we want

[toshi_hakari]

In my country (Austria), you have the option of leaving school at 14/15 to either get an apprenticeship for "hands-on" jobs like becoming a chef, mechanic etc. or you can go on to four more years of "high school" or different school types (for business, technology, etc.) until you're 18. After that, you have the choice of going to university or a college of higher education to study (whereas the latter one will be more practical in its approach) or just straight up jumping into the workforce.

[starfleetbrat]

This is what it is in Australia too. College is TAFE which is skill-based learning. Accounting, mechanics, hairdressing, IT, cooking, social work etc. At the end, you have a Certificate or a Diploma. You can enrol while you are still in High School and study alongside doing your high school work, or you can do TAFE instead of university when you leave school. There are almost no requirements for doing a college course except being over 16.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this. Also in Western Australia, if you said 'college' some people took that to mean a residential college... So the dorm where you could live as you studied at university.

[(Anonymous)]

As is my understanding:

UK college = US community college/trade school/vocational school.

UK university = US college, which can occur at an institution with either "college" or "university" in it's name (or even neither, as in the case of MIT or Cal-Tech). Universities are generally larger than US colleges and offer graduate degrees as well as undergraduate (although I think colleges can offer master's degrees, but not doctorates). I think there's also a difference in structure, like a university is technically made up of multiple colleges/schools, whereas a college is made up of departments.

However, a US liberal arts college is a place to get a 4-year bachelor's degree, exactly on par with a 4-year bachelor's degree from a university, so at the undergraduate level, the two are equivalent in the US in terms of the education you are getting and what your degree means.

"To go to college" is the American catch-all term for further schooling after high school (but before grad school), and while it usually implies a 4-year degree from a college or university, it can encompass community college/trade school as well.

My parents went to college at a college. I went to college at a university. Our degrees represent the same level of education.

[ayebydan]

This was really interesting and explained the US system really well, thank you anon!

[(Anonymous)]

I learned about this recently, actually! A US College offers only undergraduate (Associates and Bachelors) degrees. A US University additionally offers graduate (Masters and PhD) degrees. Colloquially they are pretty much the same, though, with plenty of people talking about "going to college" even if they're enrolled in a university.