[ SECRET POST #4459 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4459 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Dan Bern, WTNV, I Only Listen To the Mountain Goats, the Mountain Goats]



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[The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel]


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[Director James Gunn, Guardians of the Galaxy franchise]











Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 08 secrets from Secret Submission Post #638.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[philstar22]

This secret confuses me honestly. I don't get depressing from Lord of the Rings at all. Sure, it gets dark. But it is hopeful. And hopeful and depressing are complete opposites, at least as I understand them.

[(Anonymous)]

Frodo and Sam parting ways at the end is still damn sad.

[philstar22]

Sure, but sad and depressing aren't the same thing. I'd call that a bittersweet ending. Depressing would be a completely hopeless ending where the good guys lose.

I guess I've just always thought the definition of depressing was hopeless. Not just sad, but completely devoid of hope.

[(Anonymous)]

Different people might find different things depressing. They might not be going by your specific, high personal definition. Why is this confusing? Isn't this... life?

[(Anonymous)]

It's a bit depressing in the sense that it ends with magic leaving middle-earth.

[philstar22]

Yup, I guess people are defining depressing differently than I do. to me, that's sad but not depressing. But I guess people are using the two synonymously?

[(Anonymous)]

DA - I'm with you. Yeah, sad and hard things happen. But they accomplish their goal and make Middle Earth a place where people can live peacefully. That's not depressing to me. At the worst, it's bittersweet and realistic and almost kind of...beautiful...that not all of them are able to fully appreciate and recover from the events, but even then, they don't regret their involvement.

[(Anonymous)]

this is an excellent point. I recently re-read and it was really painfully clear that aside from Gandalf, no one uses magic. Ever. Aragorn at best has a couple of "I sense something" moments and maybe has a strong will to wrestle the palatir from Sauron but he's not really magical. Galadriel at best made a pool of water into a mirror but nothing else magical is ever shown. The close of the Third Age is just the final period on a paragraph of waning that began thousands of years earlier, magic and elves were already more or less gone from Middle-Earth by that time. the ringbearers were just lingering because Sauron.

dunno how the movies made it out to be because I noped out of that shit halfway through Fellowship.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't find that depressing because I didn't get the sense that the non-Elven characters derived much benefit from that magic in their daily lives and they were going to go on living their lives as before, just without Sauron and a war to worry about. I also can't really empathize with a world losing magic when I've never lived in a world that was magical in that way, and I still get along okay in my non-magic world.

[(Anonymous)]

I could see it. Sure, there's hope, but not everyone finds it easy to watch characters they love go through hell.

[(Anonymous)]

Hopeful and depressing aren't necessarily opposites, and are incredibly subjective. There are a lot of elements in Lord of the Rings that can quite easily leave someone feeling pretty bleak.