[ SECRET POST #4459 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4459 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Dan Bern, WTNV, I Only Listen To the Mountain Goats, the Mountain Goats]



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[The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel]


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[Director James Gunn, Guardians of the Galaxy franchise]











Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 08 secrets from Secret Submission Post #638.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's fair to dismiss Steve's reasons as "because it's easier." Why do you think it was easier for him? Why do you think his actions are cowardice?

[(Anonymous)]

The comment above me was the one that said Tony's reaction to his parents' murder was enough of a reason for Steve not to tell him. If that's the case, then it is pure cowardice. If you're going to back down from telling the truth about an innocent woman's murder because you don't want to face the reaction to it, when you have willfully torn down entire government agencies for treason yourself and damn the consequences, then you are a coward. What the hell was it about Tony's potential reaction that he couldn't have just faced, instead of lying and keeping silent and letting the murders go without justice or even acknowledgement?

[(Anonymous)]

After spending an entire movie lecturing everyone about due process and accountability, Tony reacted with intent to MURDER, not just punch Bucky in the face and be done with it. He even KNEW Bucky was controlled and had no choice or will in the matter, and said straight up "I don't care."

[(Anonymous)]

Because he had literally just watched his mother be murdered. And turned around to find the face that killed her standing right there. You do not watch someone you love die in front of you and react rationally.

If I remember right, the film makers even said they did that on purpose, they set it up exactly like that to produce that reaction. As did Zola. The entire situation was set up do he'd have no option except to react emotionally. And yes, he walked right into it and gave them exactly what they wanted, but if someone murders my mother and I turn around and they're standing right beside me, I am 100% smashing their face in myself.

But, true. You don't have to forgive him for it. Neither does Steve, neither does Bucky. But by exactly the same token, he doesn't have to forgive them for what they've done. (Mostly Steve, Bucky's actions were against his will - though even still, even if someone did not willingly murder your family, that doesn't mean you should have to look at them ever again when they still have). Which is what I mean. That entire relationship is past salvaging. The things they have done to each other in these movies are beyond the pale. This is not ... Cut them out. Have them be done with each other. This is not a relationship that has ever helped anybody, least of all either of the people in it. What is there to salvage in a relationship that started out with interpersonal strife and graduated to lies and secrets and violence? Where people hide murders and respond to each other's actions with violence? Where there is no trust and never has been?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm never going to believe that, and I don't even like Stark. But he went up against Thor and space leviathans in a much older model suit, so if he really intended to kill, two super soldiers would hardly be a match for him.