[ SECRET POST #4459 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4459 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Dan Bern, WTNV, I Only Listen To the Mountain Goats, the Mountain Goats]



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[The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel]


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[Director James Gunn, Guardians of the Galaxy franchise]











Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 08 secrets from Secret Submission Post #638.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Then you tell them that your friend is innocent. You show them the evidence of what was done to him. You stand up and fight for your friend, but you do it honestly. When it's other people's secrets he's fine with that. He threw all of Hydra's secrets to the wind, let the consequences fall where they would, even when doing so meant all of SHIELD's secrets and the secrets of everybody they'd ever investigated or blackmailed or protected went with them. He stood up for the truth then. But as soon as the consequences have a face he knows, suddenly he's a coward? Suddenly secrets are fine again, and murders are something we can just sweep under the rug? HYDRA's murders? Of a man who was his friend and an innocent woman? What the fuck happened, Mr I-can-do-this-all-day? Or is it just easy to be honest when it's someone else paying the price?

He lied. He perpetuated the cover-up of two murders HYDRA had committed, one of them the murder of a friend. He did so in the face of that man's son. When he could have stood. When he could have stood up for Bucky, stood up for Howard, stood up against what HYDRA did to them both. But he didn't. He fucking didn't. Because for the first time in 70 years his choices had consequences that were personal to him, and he fucking caved because of it. He said nothing. He let the murder of Howard and Maria Stark stand.

Jesus, Steve. Jesus. "Sometimes my friends don't tell me things." Jesus.

[(Anonymous)]

He TRIED to tell them Bucky was innocent. He was laughed at when asked about getting Bucky a lawyer. A huge chunk of the plot of Civil War is nobody listening to Steve about Bucky's innocence, including Tony.

Also, god, you're acting like he was quizzed on the murder and he said "no officer I've never seen that man in my life." He chose not to bring up an implied thread from Zola. He didn't know 100% what the facts were, so coming to Tony with a half-understood mention would have been cruel too.

[(Anonymous)]

He didn't tell anyone they were murdered. Because doing so might lead to the revelation that it was Bucky who was forced to murder them. For two years. Nobody asked him about it because he didn't allow that to be an option. And I do fully understand why, but it's still not something I can forgive him for. His reasons aren't enough to justify that in my eyes. You can't lecture other people about telling the truth and then just hide a murder. Even the implication of a murder.

[(Anonymous)]

After the events in WS, Steve was trying to find Bucky, to bring him in, to help him. That was his priority. Zola had merely hinted that HYDRA had something to do with Howard's death. So the first time we, the audience, sees that Bucky verifies that he did all those things that HYDRA brainwashed him innto doing is on the quinjet to Siberia.

Please tell me, given that timeline, when Steve had a chance to tell Tony what he knew?

No, I get it. You're not going to forgive Steve. Got it. But understand that some of us have thought about this and know that Marvel made this an immovable object/unstoppable force paradox. They both lose. No one wins.