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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-21 05:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #4459 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4459 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Dan Bern, WTNV, I Only Listen To the Mountain Goats, the Mountain Goats]



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[The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel]


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[Director James Gunn, Guardians of the Galaxy franchise]











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(Anonymous) 2019-03-22 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there were two years between Winter Soldier and Civil War. That's a lot of time not to tell someone. More than I can forgive.

I haven't seen Infinity War. What have Peter Quill's actions got to do with anything?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-22 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
In between Winter Soldier and Civil War was Age of Ultron, in which the two of them were ANYTHING but friendly with each other (and in which Tony pulled some awful shit of his own, more than /I/ can forgive. He was my fave before that movie.)

Ah, okay. I asked because in Infinity War, Peter reacts violently to finding out a loved one was recently killed by someone who was right in front of him, and he's been getting a lot of shit from fans for that reaction (because it did fuck up a plan, but the murder had happened mere /hours/ before) while Tony usually gets a pass.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-22 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
And there was a year between WS and AoU. A year for him to sit on the knowledge that two people had been murdered and tell no one. I'm sorry. By my lights, you just don't get to hide that and still have my respect. There are some things where, if you have any courage and decency at all, you stand up and say it. There is no excuse for a lie or omission of that magnitude. Someone was murdered.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-22 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
And someone was a POW who was tortured and brainwashed for 70 years.

(Jumping back in here....I’m not the OP of the last few comments but I did comment a few posts back.)

I guess...I’m not trying to change your mind here. Obviously to you it is a very black and white situation. It just isn’t to me. They both made mistakes. Steve didn’t tell Tony what Zola said/implied. Tony tried to murder Bucky.

I mean, fair disclosure of bias - I’m more on Steve’s side than Tony’s in this. I like Tony, but I’ve found it impossible to side with him since Ultron, and I felt like he did the same thing all over again with the Accords. On the other hand, I wasn’t entirely happy with Steve in CW either. The whole Lagos debacle was entirely on him, and other than that one short scene with Wanda when they’re watching the news, the movie makes no acknowledgement of that, preferring to entirely put it onto Wanda and her scary powers. I would have been much happier if Steve had stepped up and taken more responsibility for what happened, and taken a more forceful stance in arguing against Ross’s bullshit.

So yeah, they both screwed up. But then Thanos came. And wiped out half the population of the universe. I guess under those circumstances I feel like there’s room for them to view things in a different perspective and to find some forgiveness and move forward.

But as always, mileage will vary.