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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-30 03:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #4467


⌈ Secret Post #4467 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan (Amazon)]



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02.
[Zeal & Ardor]


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03.
[The Umbrella Academy, The Haunting of Hill House]


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04.
[Abu from Aladdin]


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05.
[The Umbrella Academy]


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06.
[Vanya Hargreeves, The Umbrella Academy]


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07.
[The Breakfast Club, Note from OP: that one scene where Allison draws a picture on black paper and then shakes dandruff "snow" all over it]


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08.
[American Gods, season 2]


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09.
[The Enemy Within, Kate Ryan/Erica Shepherd]











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[personal profile] fscom 2019-03-30 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
04. https://i.imgur.com/MvYRsMW.png
[Abu from Aladdin]

(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh! Demon monkey! DEMON MONKEY!

[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2019-03-30 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Disney opting for practical effects instead of CGI? Hilarious.
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-03-30 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Practical effects aren't automatically superior. And that looks like an actual monkey, so I don't see the problem.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, honestly I was just glad they didn't take from the musical and make them human. (Iago, Abu wasn't even a character)

(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Aladdin was (is?) mine and my brother's favourite Disney film, and while I'm not one of those 'this is ruining my childhood!!' people, from what I've seen of the trailers the remake doesn't seem to have the same charm that I love from the animated film, and part of that is Gilbert Gotfried's Iago.

I'll probably see it out of curiousity, but I am mostly 'meh' about it right now.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2019-03-30 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
There's just something about animal character facial expressions I still can't tolerate with CGI Vs traditional animation. I don't know what it is, maybe the technology isn't there yet or my imagination finds animation easier to process because that's what was around when I was little?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Agree. It looks too fake. Even more fake than a really good puppet sometimes. CGI "expressions" just look like someone is smudging around parts of the character's face with their thumbs. it looks really wrong on animal characters that are supposed to look realistic because real animals don't have those same facial muscles that humans do.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-31 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I don't agree. CGI isn't perfect. But puppets are always obviously fake to me.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2019-03-31 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I sort of agree but at the same time don't. Some puppets my mind is able to fill in the blanks because they still move in a relatively ok way that seems natural... and other times you get Salem in the original Sabrina the Teenage Witch.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-31 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
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The fact that puppets are frequently obviously fake is part of why they work better for me than CGI animals most of the time - there's never that moment where they go from being realistic to off and land square in uncanny valley territory.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-31 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
SA

Okay, that makes sense. For me, the obviously fake throws me right out whereas I can remain engrossed in the universe even if the CGI gets a little uncanny at points.
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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2019-03-31 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
This. I've only found a very few realistic CGI animals that have effective and natural-looking facial expressions. I feel like a lot of times, the animators are just trying to put human expressions on an animal face, and that doesn't work well because that's not a human face you're modeling. And, depending on how realistic you're aiming to get, a lot of animals either can't or don't make those expressions to begin with, so it can be jarring to see, say, a big happy toothy grin on a CGI cat when you would never seen that in person.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-31 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Puppetry is not the Disney way.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
If you want puppetry, go watch Team Starkid's production of Twisted, on YT. It has exactly what you want: a puppet Abu and Iago.