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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-02 04:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #4470 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4470 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-04-02 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
What percentage of FSOG fans end up in the emergency room?

What percentage of BDSM practitioners who haven't read FSOG end up in the emergency room?

Show me stats indicating causality or GTFO.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-02 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey. There's this search engine called 'Google'. Try it sometime. There has been stories about this stuff.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-02 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
So I've been googling, and apparently all of this originated from a WaPo clickbait article that shows an increase in emergency room visits for sex toy injuries and proposes that it's related to the publication of FSOG. (Proposes, not proves, and frankly raises more questions for me than it answers.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/10/sex-toy-injuries-surged-after-fifty-shades-of-grey-was-published/?utm_term=.52ab8a53ef34

Then I searched the 2012 sales figures for FSOG. 29 million in print alone.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/257335/fifty-shades-of-grey-us-sales-figures-by-platform/

So if we were to accept what WaPo is proposing, this would mean a whopping 0.003% of FSOG readers had a sex toy accident (1000 emergency room incident increase divided by 29 million print readers).

So yeah, FSOG is officially harmful to the 0.003% of the population that's so fucking dumb that they use a romance novel as BDSM research material.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-02 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but fact remains it's still harmed these dumb people. Acting like mainstream fiction doesn't affect society at large is just being willfully obtuse.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-02 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That 0.0003% of idiots would have found another way to self-injure through stupidity, let's be real.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
So you're just gonna continue to be obtuse. Okay then.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Be real all you want, it doesn't make it harmless.

It's like alcohol. Sure, you can say most folks will be responsible, and only a small percentage will get super trashed or drive drunk. Nobody is saying to ban alcohol or keep it off the shelves. They're just saying it isn't harmless.

Well, imagine alcohol as it is, only marketed to the vulnerable, the weak, the easily influenced, or to people under 18 as something super amazing with no real consequences.

That's kind of like what these books are.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
50 Shades was marketed to adults.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
What's your point?

This whole thread covers more than 50 Shades.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Are you fucking kidding me. lol

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
No, I'm not "fucking kidding [you]. lol."

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, but your stats are negligible. 50 Shades is not causing couples to go to the emergency room. And it certainly isn't converting anyone who was previously not interested in trying kink into instantly trying dangerous kinky stunts who wouldn't have eventually tried it anyway. You are being purity police, plain and simple.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-02 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
calm down el james

(Anonymous) 2019-04-02 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I lol'd

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Chill out, Anita Bryant.