[ SECRET POST #4470 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4470 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, anon. Rolling my eyes so hard at some of the comments here. On one hand, we enlightened nerds regularly read kinky non-con/dub-con fics with woobified baddies. On the other hand, we turn our nose up at Twilight/50 Shades and scream about how immoral they are and how they will corrupt the innocent minds of poor young girls.

So fucking stupid and just another form of shaming women. I mean, these are literally romance-fantasy novels written by women for women. Let's give women a little bit of confidence that they can tell the difference between fantasy and reality.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed in principle, but I bet a lot of the enlightened nerds here turning their noses up at Twilight/50 Shades also turn their noses up at other girls in fandom who read fics with "problematic" ships and themes that "normalize" "abuse" (and "incest" and "pedophilia").

[(Anonymous)]

Those fics are much more niche and have absolutely nowhere near the impact on pop and societal culture the way 50 Shades or Twilight do, that's a weak comparison. You can keep pretending as though these insanely popular pieces of media don't seep into yours and other peoples cortex, but you're just deluding yourself.

[(Anonymous)]

Lol so they are fine if they aren't popular? If only a few young girls are reading them instead of a lot?

Quit shaming girls, let them like what they like.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not slut shaming girls, 50 Shades is just pure drek. If you're going to like BDSM, at least go for fiction that portrays it accurately and doesn't, you know, glorify abuse.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't gatekeep romance novels for women, for fuck's sake. Let them read what they like and leave them alone.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm gonna criticize anyone for having bad taste, girls don't get a fucking pass, sis.

[(Anonymous)]

If I read a fic that's tagged things like "true love," "soulmates," "unambiguously happy ending," and "fluff" but then it turns out to be "Naive virgin character A gets manipulated, coerced, gaslighted, and otherwise emotionally and physically abused by character B, falls in love with character B, marries character B, caters to character B's every whim, and settles down to live abusively ever after with Character B" then I'm going to be very squicked out and also rather pissed off that the author is blatantly misleading potential readers as to the content of their fic.

I doubt anything will make me like EL James or her books, but if she'd at least admit Anna and Christian's relationship is abusive as fuck, and stop touting it as this idyllic romance, that'd be a start.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that she should be more clear that it's abusive, but I'm pretty sure nothing about the marketing implied it was "idyllic" or "fluff"