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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-04 07:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #4472 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4472 ⌋

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Re: Universal Basic Income

(Anonymous) 2019-04-05 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Hard disagree. Society as you know it - convenience stores, entertainment, the products you use every day - all of that relies on those people. You don't have to be working the soup kitchen at a homeless shelter to make a positive impact on society.

Re: Universal Basic Income

(Anonymous) 2019-04-05 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
How much waste does all that convience produce? Is it really a benefit to society?

Re: Universal Basic Income

(Anonymous) 2019-04-05 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Except that you're so easily replaced you're basically a cog in the machine. That's not meaningful. That's just you happening to be there at that time while people look down at you.

Re: Universal Basic Income

(Anonymous) 2019-04-05 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
I think “meaningful” is too nebulous to define, and as pro-arts and humanities as I am, prioritizing “meaningful” work leaves out a lot of hard, necessary, slogging work, without which society would collapse in really nasty ways. And unfortunately, not all (or so far, even most) of it can be automated. Maybe soul-crushing retail jobs aren’t necessary or meaningful, but eldercare, sewage treatment, trash pickup, slaughtering, butchering, meat packing (woo boy these three need overhauling to get people away from them asap, so many nasty injuries) are absolutely necessary jobs.

That said, I’m totally in favor of a UBI in the $10k-$30k range, especially if union membership in the US continues to be such a shadow of its former self. I mean, I’m also in favor of unions and universal healthcare and green infrastructure projects etc etc, but if people lose fingers and hands to conveyor belt fuckups and ruin their backs slinging warehouse merch, they shouldn’t be forced to keep working at physically demanding jobs until they’re unable to work at all, and without unions, fighting for workers’ comp/disability is fucking awful.

Re: Universal Basic Income

(Anonymous) 2019-04-05 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Almost everyone is easily replaced, even if they do something typically considered important and meaningful, like being a doctor or a teacher or a supreme court justice. People die and retire all the time and we have to deal with replacing them and we just get on with it. There will be temporary disruption and inconvenience, but we find someone new to do the job.