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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-08 07:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #4476 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I am, too! The 80s She-Ra artwork is sooooooooooooooooo much prettier than that childish SJW wank.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
What makes the art style "SJW"

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
different anon

The style invokes so-called 'Tumblr-esque' aesthetics that are in popular use with many 20-something-year-old artists and for some people the style is also associated with a particular kind of personality type ubiquitous to modern social media, one with 'SJW' political leanings.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
What exactly are "SJW" political leanings? Generally SJWs are people who spout progressive stuff and yell at people who aren't actually being discriminatory while not actually helping anyone themselves. Generally their political views are good, they just go about it the wrong way?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
left and authoritarian

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
What do you mean by "authoritarian" here? Are we talking about Stalinists?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
https://medium.com/@jesse.singal/planet-of-cops-50889004904d

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I'm at work so this isn't going to be super in depth, and also, I think the linked piece is largely an emotional reaction and not a serious argument so I'm kind of reluctant to seriously go after it. but -

One, generally pointing to dysfunctional features of online discourse is not the same as making an argument about the ideological affiliations of any particular group. It certainly is not a warrant for describing leftists as 'authoritarian', definitely not without a lot of further elaboration (which I don't think De Boer satisfactorily does).

Two, it's one thing to just say, in general, that our norms of discourse are generally bad, and that online tends to have a lot of dumb mobs. And of course, this is true in some sense. But just vaguely waving at some idealized vision of The Real New York, or 1970s queers, is not really adequate engagement with the difficulties of sincere engagement and discourse. Certainly not a solution to it. How do we engage with people in a way that's consistent with our beliefs about human dignity and egalitarianism while still giving people room to make mistakes? How do we balance different people's needs in different spaces for discourse when those needs and desires conflict? These are real problems, and I think people are struggling with them in a way that's pretty honest and sincere, and writing it off as 'everyone who yells at someone else on the internet is a cop' is not really a great approach to the problem.

And if that's the problem you have with the discourse, I'm not sure if making blanket statements about SJW authoritarians is really consistent with that interpretation, btw

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Authoritarian and believing in government oversight are not the same thing at all. Given that the alternative is what we have now, and that the evidence shows that companies are only restricted in what they do when there are laws and government oversight, I'd say it certainly is better than the alternative.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I never said I was against big business regulation though?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
She-ra looks like a man

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
Is she played by Robin Williams?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
What makes the art style "SJW"


They couldn't masturbate to it.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
"childish SJW wank"

why such edgelord wank? oh man, only real fans who prove their non-snowflake status may love an 80s cartoon marketed to sell toys, oooo~~

you sound utterly ridiculous, childish, and like a wanker.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
SJW detected

(Anonymous) 2019-04-09 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
Pillock detected.