[ SECRET POST #4477 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4477 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[American Gods, season two]


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[James Gunn]


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(Riverdale)


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[Gotham, Penguin/Riddler]


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Comments

[fscom]

06. https://i.imgur.com/aOR5Sf8.png
[James Gunn]

[(Anonymous)]

Didn't you know?? If you make a mistake you can never come back from it ever. Ever ever. You are scum forever.

[(Anonymous)]

This accusation is often leveled against liberals who are concerned about social justice, so I just want to make it crystal clear that in this instance, most liberals / leftists accepted Gunn's apologies and it was - as OP points out - mostly alt-right dickheads who decided he was scum forever.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I would argue that the alt-right dickheads don't give a shit about him and were using the left's own tactics against them to expose their hypocrisy... which it kind of did.

[(Anonymous)]

NA

I don't really get how it's hypocrisy except from a right-wing point of view, though? I can see from a right-winger's point of view, it looks like the left has darlings, and even when they transgress, an apology gets them back in people's good graces and they're accepted into the fold again. But when a right-winger transgresses, they're Nazis forever.

But from a left-wing point of view, it's obvious why we prefer and reward people who apologize and try to be respectful in their language, and why we are willing to forgive that. And why we continue to call people who pal around with neo-Nazis "Nazis"... What looks like hypocritical "tribalism" to them just looks to us like having consistent moral principles... :/

[(Anonymous)]

You're right. Unfortunately some people enjoy pitchforking others way too much. For them it's not about making the world a better place, they just want an excuse to attack others.

[morieris]

I don't think I"ve ever found this apology, and I say that as someone who doesn't think he should have gotten fired for old tweets that he hasn't repeated or condoned.

If people still have an issue with him/them, I'm not going to cry about it or defend him bc I'm not being paid for it.

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.thewrap.com/james-gunn-apologizes-offensive-old-tweets-rape-pedophilia/

Here you go - note that this has some of the (really offensive) tweets in it as well.

[morieris]

Thanks m8.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think he's the worst person in the world but I don't care for him and sure the 'try hard edgy' phase is something that happens to people but that's usually before they're in their working adult years

I'd argue it's the fans that insist anyone that dislikes him is siding with the alt-right are the worst. He can both be genuinely remourseful and unappealing to those that he offended without it being this conspiracy to 'take him down' and I wish his fans would let people have that without it becoming this whole issue

[(Anonymous)]

No one is owed forgiveness for past misdeeds, even if they deliver the prettiest apology since Thomas and Peter apologized to Bea. And also, almost no one remembered that James Gunn was an asshole on Twitter until a bunch of alt-right trolls outed him with the stated goal of getting him blacklisted, so blacklisting him is literally siding with the alt-right. On this one thing, obviously, and not the white nationalism and fascism bits.

[philstar22]

I think both these things are true, and where I've come down on. I can't personally forgive him because what he said/wrote was pretty shitty, and the apology isn't enough for me personally. But at the same time, I think rehiring him was the right decision and that he shouldn't have been fired in the first place.

[(Anonymous)]

my problem with the whole thing came from the fact that the same people i've seen "canceling" people due to something that was said or done at least a decade ago were making an exception in his case.

[(Anonymous)]

Like who?

[(Anonymous)]

pretty much everyone on twitter and tumblr?

[(Anonymous)]

I forgive him one Disney should not of put him on marvel if they didn't like what he said they knew he said these things and apologized for them before they made gotg. And Disney fired him because of push back from the right and wanted him blacklisted, but the thing is it beyond back fired because wb dc picked him up and now instead of no jobs he has 2 jobs and works for marvel and dc, also they never entertained a new director and you could say it was a ruse on Disney to appease the right when they knew they would re hire him. Once the news died down.

[(Anonymous)]

That hair is terrible.

[(Anonymous)]

Two things made him different from the rest for me: one, he had an old apology actually present, instead of shaping a dug out statement of some sort that barely counted as an apology to pretend it was one. Second, he also quickly apologized a second time, when a lot of celebrities at this point were like "I already apologized before, I don't have to ever do it again".

Now that I think about it, his silence after probably means he was already talking to a lot of high level Disney people at the time, but the silence instead of complaining also made him appear a lot more sincere. Lastly, he's probably just a good writer, because I simply believed his apology when I read it when a lot of others read insincere quickly.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, he already took responsibility, so it was really shitty for Disney to do what they did anyway. I guess the only other thing he could have really done was take down the old offensive tweets, but other than that, he did everything right.