case: ([ Kyouya; Eh? ])
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-09-19 05:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #623 ]


⌈ Secret Post #623 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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132 tl;dr ^-^;

(Anonymous) 2008-09-20 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
Um okay...you at least see it in the samples above? Also from what I know, Japan a pretty serious issues with gender equality (http://www.mangapunk.com/articles/women_and_sexism_in_american_and_japanese_comics) so it makes sense that its media would be skewed in that direction.

Hee are a few common themes in anime/manga and some examples from popular manga

1. It's okay if the guy treats you like crap because HE IS JUST HURTING INSIDE/HE MEANS WELL (example: In Ouran host club Kyouya thinks that threatening Haruhi with rape is an OK way to get your point across and appearently Haruhi thinks so too)

2. You may be the best girl...but a boy will always beat you no matter what it is! (example: Special A is a series about a girl who considers the love interest her rival but he always beats her at everything (easily!). Turns out he never considered her a rival and thinks she's cute when she's angry (lol those female emotions! You can never take them seriously))

3. Girls can fight and be strong (maybe)!...but only against other girls! Girls are supposed to be the ones crying on the sidelines and getting beaten up so the hero can get really upset over something (example: Sakura from the manga Naruto has a revelation that she is only serving as a hindrance to her teammates, cuts her hair, swears to change, then is promply beat to a pulp. She then must stop her teammate from slaughtering her assailants.)

If you want more information you might find this article helpful (http://girl-wonder.org/girlsreadcomics/?p=21#respond) Even though Girl's Read Comics is about Western comics I think some of the issues are equally relevent to manga.
ext_424281: (☆ never saw a deeper purple)

Re: 132 tl;dr ^-^;

[identity profile] fruitsgrow.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
I actually forgot about that episode in Ouran, though I never saw it as rape. /will have to watch it...some time.

Also, Special A is a bad example. I know quite a few guys like that. So it's not a problem with Japan but as a whole.

Re: 132 tl;dr ^-^;

(Anonymous) 2008-09-20 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Well no because he was never actually going to rape her but he says she should "pay with her body" yanks her onto the bed and gets on top of her. Haruhi knew he didn't mean it but he thought she would. He thought that the threat of rape was an okay way to get his point across. Which it wasn't. At all.

Also, Special A is a bad example. I know quite a few guys like that. So it's not a problem with Japan but as a whole.

That doesn't change the point that it's sexist. In my last post I linked you to a website talking about sexism in western comics. I'm not saying that only Japan is sexist, I'm just saying that the sexism in my favorite comics is frustrating. Also, that you know a few guys like that doesn't make it a prominent message in media :|
ext_424281: (☆ ...what?)

Re: 132 tl;dr ^-^;

[identity profile] fruitsgrow.livejournal.com 2008-09-21 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Okay then. I admit I need to rewatch, so. Okay.

No, it doesn't, but now that it's mentioned, I've realized it actually occurs often in media as much as in real life.

In any case, it's great you care, but you're talking to a brick wall. So it's best we end this conversation about sexism.

Nice talking to you. :|