[ SECRET POST #4485 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4485 ⌋

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[The Rookie]


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[Good Omens]


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[Jonathan Van Ness (Queer Eye) and ex-boyfriend Wilco Froneman]


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[Pennyworth]


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[The IT Crowd]


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[Rise of the Guardians and Carmen Sandiego]

















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Comments

Re: Notre Dame backlash...

[(Anonymous)]

I think people tend to treat caring and empathy as a currency of sorts, because it's all they have to offer (or are willing to offer) in times like this. Signal boosting and call outs on the internet are all they've got to show their support.

Re: Notre Dame backlash...

[(Anonymous)]

realistically, it's probably true that more people care about Notre Dame than cared about the Brazilian museum.

Re: Notre Dame backlash...

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, Notre Dame is a world-famous landmark. Pretty much everyone knows about it regardless of where they live - it's like the Statue of Liberty or the Great Wall of China or Big Ben or the pyramids. It's the kind of thing you have a certain connection to even if you've never been there because it's just so iconic.

Re: Notre Dame backlash...

[(Anonymous)]

And also because France is European and historically white

Re: Notre Dame backlash...

[(Anonymous)]

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Maybe, but I think if it had been the Christ the Redeemer statue in Brazil, you would have seen much the same thing as with Notre Dame. Because it is also very iconic and tied to religion.

Re: Notre Dame backlash...

[(Anonymous)]

i'm pretty sure there would be an equal outpouring of money if the pyramids were damaged.

Re: Notre Dame backlash...

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. Or the Great Wall or Machu Picchu something.

I think it's more about being a popular tourist destination that the average person is familiar with. The fact of the matter is, the average English-speaking person doesn't know about, let alone have a personal connection with, that museum in Brazil or other landmarks. I wouldn't expect them to, as much as I wish we would effectively and financially treat these disasters very similarly.

Re: Notre Dame backlash...

[(Anonymous)]

Well, but, I mean, don't you have to ask how that state of affairs came to pass? I mean, why do we know more about one, why is one a tourist destination?

And it's not like this is limited to Brazil either

Re: Notre Dame backlash...

[(Anonymous)]

Well, let's see:

1. Notre Dame is over 900 years old and thus has considerable historical significance.

2. It's a beautiful piece of architecture whose construction is all the more impressive when you consider that it was built over 900 years ago without the aid of any modern technology. It also contains numerous works of art and religious relics.

3. It's an important site not just to Catholicism, but to Christianity as a larger whole.

4. It's a cultural icon in France.

5. It's a major tourist destination for all of the above reasons.

It's really not hard to understand why it's so well known.

Re: Notre Dame backlash...

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, a coworker and I were trying to come up with a US equivalent to Notre Dame in terms of historical/cultural significance and couldn’t, really. Anything that dates back that far would’ve been built by Native Americans and official government policy for centuries was to kill them/drive them off their land, and the only monumental construction left in the lower 48 is the Cahokia mounds, which not even everyone on the US knows about. The closest thing we could think of was the Smithsonian.

Everybody at least knows that Notre Dame is a famous cathedral in Paris.

Re: Notre Dame backlash...

[(Anonymous)]

Well. The Statue of Liberty would be a pretty big one, symbolism-wise.

GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE

[(Anonymous)]

There would definitely be international attention if the Golden Gate Bridge were destroyed or heavily damaged. Everyone knows about it.

If you want something pre-European, though, there's also Mesa Verde and Chaco Canyon and other structures in the southwest, which definitely have more national and international recognition than Cahokia. Pueblo Bonito in Chaco Canyon is on par with Notre Dame in terms of age (slightly older, actually). However, while I've never been to Mesa Verde, I can tell you that Chaco Canyon is pretty remote and definitely not in the middle of a large city with other tourist destinations and an abundance of croissants, so I'm sure it doesn't get anywhere close to the same level of tourist traffic.