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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-18 06:55 pm

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Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I don’t get the hype of geneaology kits. I’m not white.

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I thought the same thing, also not white.

On the other hand I can see why people who grow up as just "white," especially "white American," are interested in exactly what particular kind of white they are. Most but not all POC and immigrants know where they came from and what their ancestral home countries are and can point to a place (a notable exception being black Americans descended from slaves), but many "white Americans" with no recent immigrants in their family tree don't have or know that for sure. I've seen lots of African-Americans with slave ancestry also very interested in knowing exactly where their ancestors came from.

I'd probably be curious too, if I didn't already know.

Same anon

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Not to imply that ayebydan is American, btw. I just comment on it because I've seen the genealogy thing gaining popularity here in the US.
ayebydan: by <user name="pureimagination"> (wwe: roman w title)

Re: genealogy

[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-19 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
It is curious to me that you all asume I am white American.

I am white Scottish and mostly we wish to seek out whether we are traditional Scots speakers ie from the lowlands or gaelic speakers from the more northern regions. Many Scots are decended from Irish families who fled the famine ( I know I am on my bio sides) but then where the rest of our family fled and if we have cousins is cool to know.

We found once removed cousins in New York in our last drive at it. We get on great now.

Trust me, I am with you on the white Americans coming here and going 'I am Scottish cause in 16XY My X did Z' and I am like uhhuh. But it is my great grandparents that are Irish so that is a strong connection for me.

I don't want to trace my dna because I think that is unreliable crap tbh

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't, though...
ayebydan: by <user name="pureimagination"> (pokemon: bulba and jigs)

Re: genealogy

[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-19 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
You said that after. Yours and the other comments at first seemed to suggest you all thought I was. My bad.

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) - 2019-04-19 00:49 (UTC) - Expand

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
Anyone white in the UK is usually a mix of Scots, Irish, Welsh and English. That's what's interesting to me when I research my family history.
ayebydan: (wwe: sasha banks title)

Re: genealogy

[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-19 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't use a kit. I traced documents. Census notes and Chruch records, which are a bitch to read from 1840s Scotland lemme tell you.

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I’m not white either, but I kinda get the hype ‘cause, while I know where my family’s from, I’d like to know if my ancestors from way back came from either Spain or France or somewhere else entirely.
ayebydan: (wwe: jeff)

Re: genealogy

[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-19 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
The good thing about those nations is that Catholic churches always kept really close and good records so if you cross nations there might be a language barrier but if it is an interest the records should be there.

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, I hadn’t even considered going the church route. Thanks for the advice!
ayebydan: by <user name="pureimagination"> (wwe: roman grumpy)

Re: genealogy

[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-19 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Across Europe up until the late 1800s it tended to be the Church that were in Charge of keeping any sort of records so even if people were not overly religious their local Church would probably note their births, deaths, possibly marriages ect. Then in Britain there were Census every 10 years on the year X1, so 61, 71 ect. Possible other nations had the same if you have a poke about. Most national archives are open but churches themselves tend to be happy to be contacted to give more info if you just explain where you are from and why you want to know. Gives them Priests something to do XD
morieris: http://iconography.dreamwidth.org/32982.html (Default)

Re: genealogy

[personal profile] morieris 2019-04-19 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Same, I can probably guess my ancestry and save 200$.
ayebydan: <user name="pinklaceribbons"> (beatlejuice tada)

Re: genealogy

[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-19 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Dna kits are not ancestry searching but yeah, I can get where you are coming from. If everyone in the family is fairy sure and gives the same story on things it is solid. Plus, not everyone cares.
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Re: genealogy

[personal profile] morieris 2019-04-19 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I see! Yeah, I'm one of those people who could not care less. I'm more interested in the future.

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Imagining a family of proud fairies is making me lol

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Me neither, but I still think it'd be interesting. I can't be 100% certain my ancestry is one ethnicity and I think it's likely to be a mix.

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
Can you (non-snarkily) explain the connection between genealogy kits and being white? I don't know much about them except that one of my white friends got herself tested with one, but the ads for them don't just feature white people?

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
My guess would be that non-white people (in the United States at least) are a lot more likely to have a fairly good idea of their ethnic origin already?

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
Well, not so much for black people descended from slaves.

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
Of course, and it's obviously the case that non-white people do use the thing, but it is still a different historical experience and concept

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
That's an entirely US-centric POV.

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently way more white people use them compared to other races, so if you use one and you're white it will tell you much more about the areas your DNA is likely to have come from, whereas if you are black, for example, it will say much less and just "north Africa" instead of narrowing it down. It's supposed to improve if more non-white people use the kits, but it's also an unregulated database of ppls DNA, which is highly skeevy, imo, and I get why people steer clear.

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Those things have very little to do with actually tracing a family line.

Re: genealogy

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you ever watched Finding Your Roots?