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[ SECRET POST #4490 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4490 ⌋

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... I am getting the worst second-hand embarrassment just from reading that. Jesus Christ, way to perpetuate the stereotype that geeks are social failure shut-ins who have never gone out into the real world and interacted with real people...

To be honest, it seems more like a fairly standard dumb newbie writer question than anything else

nayrt - Asking about how to get a book published before it's even written is very standard newbie writer stuff, but the heavy handed social message angle is a new spin. I honestly hope that person was trolling.

The content of ~~~my brilliant ideas~~~ is maybe a little different, but the basic thing of having ~~~my brilliant ideas~~~ is not in any way unique, nor is those ideas being dumb and embarrassing unique.

OK. I don't think we disagree?

I think people are overreacting to a standard embarrassing dumb thing because it includes the words "toxic masculinity" and they don't like those words

Overreacting how? Feeling secondhand embarrassment in reaction to such a question doesn't seem particularly over the top.

"Most heterosexual relationships are fairly awful" is something that would only be said by someone who has had zero real-life experience because even a few hours of interacting with people would prove that that belief was false.

13 year old from tumblr land probably

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I don't really see this overreacting you're referring to. Do you mean here on FS or on tumblr?

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Sounds like someone who very much has, to me. Social failure shut ins often have highly romanticised, unrealistic ideas about relationships: this one sounds preachy but honestly? They are pretty near the knuckle there.

Oh god I hope that's a troll.

I admire the professionalism of his response.

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... Agreed. It almost doesn't matter if it's a troll or not, because it's the answer — which will be read by many more than one person — that's important.

Yes, but does he not know he can NOT answer them?

da It's kind of him to answer, though, and might save publishers a bit of time too.

Neil has said that he gets more messages than he can possibly respond to, so he is deliberately choosing to spend his time responding to the morons. I'm not exactly sure what that says about him.

When you get multiple questions asking the same stupid question or variations on the theme, you might as well highlight the dumbest sounding one of the bunch.

He's probably hoping that if he answers one particularly egregious example, it'll help stem the flow of dumb questions from people who think that publishers are dying to get their hands on a book about the evils of heterosexual relationships. Or provide some hilarity, IDK.

It says that he's received a hundred variations of that question, and has opted to respond so there's an answer out there and people can stop asking him.

And while the phrasing is eyeroll-worthy, the question itself - how do I market my novel about [insert theme here] - is a reasonably common one. There are schools of thought that insist that all good writing must be meaningful, and prioritize meaning over story, so it shouldn't be surprising that there are novice writers who genuinely believe that publishers are looking for a message rather than a story. They're wrong, but having someone who's experienced in the field point that out is the only way they're going to learn they're wrong.

tumblr's just like that. Every other post is like that. Can confirm: have a tumblr, and facepalm daily at the utter stupidity masked in buzzwords there.

I dread the day these people start their own publishing companies.

Someone needs to write something about toxic masculinity and button eyes...

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