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⌈ Secret Post #4491 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you, OP who wrote the facts about MJ, which does put the accusers in a new light.
To the OP who states it's clear he's a 'peodophile' if you look at the situation deeper, you'll see things aren't so clear cut. Why do you believe the accusers just because they make a biased four hour doco saying he abused them? The more I look into it, the more I think they are attempting to besmirch his name and earn money from the estate.
I'm disgusted by this, and frankly, ironically, amazed that OP doesn't see what is obvious. There are true victims of abuse out there and what these two con artists are doing is beyond reprehensible.
There are so many things that make no sense, this is why a lot of people are questioning the two men who have come forward.
I saw footage of Wade Robson being interviewed by Kimmel(?) who made a joke about being abused. Robson brushed it off, not seeming the least affected, stating again that MJ didn't do anything to him. Would that really happen if he was groomed and abused? Oh yes, he was in 'denial', 'in love' with MJ.
For years, he has talked fondly of MJ, until recently, when he lost the Circe de Soleil show. Hm... interesting...
Wade Robson has said he is a 'master of manipulation'. Doesn't that offer a clue as to his intentions?
Where are the other accusers? Surely now they can come out of the woodwork. that's what usually happens. Look at Kevin Spacey. Harvey Weinstein. If he is a prolific abuser, as they attest, why are they the only two who have come out recently?
Macauley Culkin even recently came out and stated he didn't see any hint of any abuse, whatsoever. MJ was a great friend and he still thinks of him fondly. So you think Macualey is lying?
Corey Feldman has not stated he saw any abuse, nor was he abused, but he stands with those accusing, because of the abuse (from other people) him and Corey Haim suffered. That's completely understandable, from his side.
What really sells it for me (and yes, I've seen the doco) is they simply didn't act like people who had been abused. (People will say every person deals with molestation differently and this is true.) However, there are commonalities amongst molestation victims, which the simply didn't show. I saw an interesting youtube clip, from a psychologist who works with abuse victims, and he went through the body language 'tells' that pretty much all abuse victims show- these 'tells' are subconscious. The 'accusers' didn't show any of them. Why? Because it was an act. Their stories changed, not in the way that people who have been abused can't get times and dates straight- that's understandable. I'm talking about so-called manipulations that occurred when they were adults. To me they came across like actors, and not even particularly good ones, at that.
Also, no abuse victim wants to talk in DETAIL about their abuse. The doco made me sick. I felt manipulated and angry.
The thing that clenched it to me, is that as an adult Wade Robson spoke on Michael Jackson's behalf in his second trial, stating Michael rang him up and begged him to talk on his behalf.
That... makes no sense.
Why put the man you 'abused' as a child on the stand? Isn't there a chance he'll crack under the pressure? If he's a master manipulator, why not choose a kid he didn't abuse?
It's just not a good defense strategy, has too much of a chance to unravel.

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[(Anonymous)]

Even if MJ was innocent, do take a look at the arguments you're using to protect him. It's impossible for a guy to abuse one person but not three others? it's not possible for a person to be an abuser if the number of victims isn't high enough? It's impossible that people didn't want to come out after reading so many disbelieving and angry reactions directed against those guys who did come out? It's impossible for abuser to be loved and protected by his groomed victims even when they become adults and teh abuser being certain fo their protection? It's impossibel for somebody to react in a way you did not find 100% convincing? Or compliant with your ideal timeline for when to report what? "They don't act like people who have been abused"? Really? For fucks, sake. Do you see what you have written? What rape accusations are going to meet your requirements? Only the ones where alledged victims match all 20 of your preferred listed "tells"...? Jesus Christ on a breadstick.

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I'm too tired to get into why this entire comment is garbage, but it is legit victim-blaming garbage.

Like I've seen MJ Lovers make much better bad arguments. This is just offensive.