[ SECRET POST #4494 ]

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? Secret Post #4494 ?

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04. [SPOILERS for Jane the Virgin]



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06. [WARNING for possible discussion of suicide/abuse]

[Kimetsu no Yaiba]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

'Responsibility' is a dangerous term in relation to art that not only sucks the fun out of everything but is often used as a weapon against certain groups.

I'm not sure how to really respond to this, because it seems like this is mostly talking about the reasons that the word "responsibility" annoys you personally, and it's sort of hard for me to comment on that. And I don't really know what you mean about it "being used as a weapon against certain groups."

I do think that, in general, human beings have moral responsibilities. With regards to art, one of those responsibilities - as OP says - is being aware of when media is normalizing things. I agree that it's really shitty when you have to balance that responsibility against enjoyment and having fun. Finding that balance is hard and I'm really sympathetic to the idea that it's important for people to be able to enjoy things. But I don't think it's right to ignore that by just dismissing the responsibility and entirely, either. Sometimes that sucks but that's kind of how the world is, it seems to me.

The word 'problematic' is quickly losing its power on account of being overused in popular conversation.

Sure, it's an overused buzzword. It's very annoying because I think it's useful. But that just means it's overused and meaningless, not that people who use it are necessarily wrong (or right, for that matter).

When people start dictating what others can and can't produce in media, it risks treading into thought policing which in itself is a tool of social control, sometimes against disfranchised groups.

I agree that dictating blanket bans is not necessarily reasonable. But I don't think the solution is to just dismiss the criticisms that people make in their totality, or to dismiss the very idea of making criticisms, which it seems to me is what people want to do. In general, I think that you have to look at the specific arguments being made on their specific merits, and use your judgment as a human being to decide what you do and don't think is correct. It all comes down to cases.

And then, as a society and as a culture and as a subculture, we try to use those insights to try to figure out cultural norms for what is and isn't appropriate in given situations, which is always going to be an imperfect and uneven process, but that doesn't make it an incorrect one.

Artists don't owe the masses anything just like the masses don't owe the artist

Sure, but that doesn't mean that they should be free from critique and response, either. And figuring out how to balance those things is another one of those tricky, complicated processes.

It's funny how artists are often paid very little but art, or rather the perceived meaning of the art, is apparently so valuable in social currency that it's treated by society as being potentially as dangerous as contraband.

Sure. Pay artists more.