[ SECRET POST #4495 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4495 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #644.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

I get that the main het ship in my fandom just had a big heyday, but it's a really, really bad look for people to crow about how Good and Correct and Obvious a heterosexual marriage is and how much they're "drinking the tears" of all those stupid slash fans. It's gross and alienating and I'm blocking people left and right, but the hurt is still there. I'm a gay woman living in a place that isn't exactly the most lgbt-friendly. I deal with this shit in real life. So many of us do. Why are we not allowed to escape it even in a space that has historically been queer-friendly and a place to explore queer themes and queer love?

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

What pairing? Is it a very recent movie?

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

It's probably not what you're thinking of, haha, though I have a friend who is equally upset over that.

Mine's from a video game.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

da but now I'm wondering if it's the canon I'm thinking of because it had a marriage in the most recent installment. Although if it is that canon, maybe we've just been hanging out in different spaces because I've always seen way more support for the slash pairing than the het one?

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

the younguns don't know. they haven't lived the hate, they haven't been there for the most part. as you say, you live in a place where there's still daily LGBT hate, so you still experience it, but there are a lot of places where acceptance has been normalized for at least a generation so when hate pops up, it simply shocks the population, like how could anyone think any differently how is this possible. I live in one of those places and the number of people who have literally never seen racist or anti-semitic propaganda flipping their shit when some assface on the local campus slips white supremicist flyers into a dorm...it boggles the mind.

online, fandom has indeed been that safe space for so long that an entire generation of people - not just the young teens entering fandom spaces for the first time but people in their 20s - have never heard of gay bashing. never feared for their lives walking in the white part of town. even the Pusle nightclub disaster didn't open their eyes to violence toward LGBT and other minorities. it's been a good 15 years since Queer As Folk (US) with the club bombing and beatings. the younger fandom does not know how bad it was so they think by mocking slash fans they're not doing anything more serious than writing "lol amirite" on someone's facebook, when in fact they're actually doing something hateful and awful and need a reality check.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, this.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Fandom as a whole has never really been queer-friendly. At best, it's been friendly if you happen to be the right kind of LGBT and into the right ships for the particular pocket of fandom you've fallen into. The prominence of AO3 in LJ/DW fannish circles has skewed impressions within those circles, since the archive was conceived of and started by a few big name slash fans, but even then it's still more slash-friendly than it is queer-friendly. There's always been a nasty vein of homophobia that bubbles up whenever the conditions are right.