[ SECRET POST #4496 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4496 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

If she wanted a home, why is she conquering a (essentially) foreign land? There are no slaves to free. They are free people.

In regards to current show stuff. Why is she unable to assure Sansa that the North can rule themselves? She even starts to threaten Sansa when talking to Jon. If she just wants home, why does she have to rule everyone for that?


When she finds out who Jon is, her immediate thought is that he is coming for her throne.

[(Anonymous)]

she could have contended with dragonstone but nah, everything or nothing right?

[chamonix]

Because she has been threatened and undermined and taken advantage of from day one. She is in the land of her birth and her ancestral seat, but she doesn't know the ways of the people and is essentially a stranger in her own home. I am amazed she has been as open and trusting as she has, to be honest. She trusted Jon, she trusted Tyrion, she trusted Olenna and Varys. This is the throne that was usurped from her family (whether Aerys was mad or not) and the cause of her entire wretchedly miserable childhood in the Free Cities, penniless and begging, sold as chattel, assaulted and brutalised by both her brother and husband. Obviously those experiences have affected her. She no longer wants people to walk all over her.

She has already made HUGE concessions. The very reason she is IN the North to begin with is to help them defend their homeland. If she doesn't care about the people of the North, why isn't she pulling a Cersei and waiting for the North and the Walkers to deplete each others' armies before she even sets foot on a battlefield?

When Jon reveals her parentage, her immediate thought is that she has gone through hell and back to raise herself to a position where she is no longer a beggar, a slave or a refugee, she has worked and suffered and toiled, and then this guy just comes in and sweeps EVERYTHING she has worked towards under the rug simply by the fact that he exists. I think it's important to remember that we only get to see the last couple of years of Dany's life where things start to change for the better for her - specifically, when she hatches her dragons. The whole of the rest of her life she has been disregarded and swept aside and utterly powerless. Now the person she loves most appears to be in a position to do the same thing. She reacts in the moment. What is so inhuman about that?

[(Anonymous)]

Again, if she is just looking for "home", why not stay across the ocean with a people who love her? She isn't looking for home. She wants to conquer a people that freed themselves from her family's tyranny.

[chamonix]

She doesn't see it that way. She knows her father was not a good king, but she knows her brother was a good Prince. The tales she has been fed all her life are about the 'usurper'. They slaughtered her brother, soon-to-be king, a man everyone - even his enemies - seem to agree was fucking fantastic. They slaughtered his wife and butchered his children. Her mother was forced to flee and it is implied that the stress of the seige on Dragonstone lead in part to her death in childbirth not necessarily true, but something Viserys would have tormented Dany with).

Also let's not forget that the world of ASOIAF is not our world. It is feudal. Titles mean something. Dany is royalty. All she knows is that usurpers rebelled, butchered her family and took their ancestral seat. She has been penniless and destitute unstill she clawed her way to agency. This is her birthright. Of course she is going to place a tremendous amount of importance on that.

[chamonix]

Also, the situation in Slavers Bay is certainly not an idyllic home with "a people who love her". Yes, many thousands of slaves whom she freed love her. But the people in power, the people who she needs to placate, do NOT. Slavers Bay is a ticking time bomb and every bit as dangerous as going to Westeros.

Also, the current ruler of Westeros is someone who we might ACTUALLY have cause to call crazy, although the simplification does even Cersei's character a disservice. Are you saying the people of Westeros are better off with Cersei ruling them? Really? REALLY?

[(Anonymous)]

The fact that her father WAS mad and terrible and awful in every way isn't something to be brushed over--it's very important to why the people she wants to rule don't want to be ruled by her.

If she just wanted a home, everything you're saying would be enough. But if she wants to rule Westeros, she needs to earn Westeros, and that means winning the people, who have already decided they were done with Targaryen-style rule.

[chamonix]

Except those same people loves Rhaegar and would have been perfectly happy to live under his rule. They are not necessarily opposed to Targaryens. Those same people are currently living under the rule of CERSEI. As an aside, Cersei is very obviously a narrative foil to Dany - an example of an ACTUAL mad queen who cares far more about her own power and comfort than any subject, whom she views as her personal totally expendable pawns. Dany has demonstrated time and time again that she will make heavy sacrifices - including her own campaign for the throne - for the wellbeing of her people.

The land of ASOIAF is feudal and Dany is royalty. She has grown up under the assumption that this is her birthright and it was taken from her, in a way that completely ruined her life. Yes she wants to rule Westeros. By all the cultural standards WITHIN CANON, she is entitled to that. Her home and her birthright are synonymous to her.