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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-28 12:09 am

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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-04-28 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I never was homeschooled myself. But all the people I saw homeschooled, it was because their conservative, fundamentalist parents hated public schools and wanted to indoctrinate their kids and not teach them basic things like actual science. So no.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get this. So homeschooling doesn't deserve positive portrayals because you saw it used badly?

I'm one of the people who was (briefly) homeschooled because the school system didnt bother with even teaching us. Without homeschooling I wouldnt have gotten any kind of middle school education.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-04-28 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Homeschooling as a concept is okay in limited circumstances where it is needed and with strict control over what is taught. There are things that you get from going to school, like socialization, that you can't get from homeschooling. And there absolutely needs to be standards about what is taught. What's taught needs to be up to the same standard as what is taught in schools. And that is simply not the case most of the time. So I think the portrayal of homeschooling in media is more accurate than not. I think what you experienced is more rare. If there were more controls, homeschooling could be better.
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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2019-04-28 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you, though in my area there was plenty of socialization for homeschoolers.

97% of it was with the local conservative fundamentalist homeschooling community but hey, that'll surely end well when your family is of the 3% NOT homeschooling for religious reasons, right?
/sarcasm
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-04-28 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup, I grew up around those people, and if I ever had kids, they are not who I'd want my kids socializing with.
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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2019-04-28 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
To be entirely fair, I rarely had problems with the other kids. I had plenty of friends and most of them turned out to be awesome people. It was the parents who were fucking nightmares.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-04-29 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't have friends. Those were the kids who bullied me because I was different. And then the teachers bullied me as well. The parents were nightmares too. That whole culture is a nightmare.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-29 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
1. The lack of socialization thing is bullshit and a myth. Show me an isolated homeschooled child and I'll show you twice as many isolated public school kids.

2. Did you know that some kids can't read until age 10? It just doesn't click in their brain -- the same way math didn't click in my brain until I was 20. If a kid who couldn't read at that age was in school he would be labeled retarded and held back. At home, that kid could put reading aside and focus on other things they're good at, like math or music or woodworking or chemistry or fuck, I don't know, sheep stacking. (Where you stack sheep.) No labels, no pressure, no treatment as inadequate. The "strict control" you're talking about would get the kid forcefully taken out of an environment that let them learn at their own pace.

3. The first amendment gives people the right to teach their children about religion. That was illegal in the country where my parents were born. I was given a religious education, one that told me to question, interrogate, observe and come to my own conclusions about my faith. Religious people probably don't have the same views as you; that doesn't mean they're wrong or that you're wrong. All children grow up eventually and can make decisions for themselves. Until then, if they come from a loving home and aren't running around committing hate crimes, who are we to say what their parents should teach them about faith?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-29 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, most religious people who homseschool their kids for religion are the kind of bigots who indoctrinate and have a cult-like mentality. They don't teach to question, interrogate and observe--just be obedient and hate people Not Like Them.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-29 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
All these comments about homeschooling being for religious nutjobs are super weird to me because where I live and in the couple of articles I've read about homeschooling, homeschooled kids had hippie parents who thought school was too stifling and conservative and wanted their kids to learn by living in the real world. Going on field trips and nature walks, for example, was a lot more common for homeschooled kids than schooled ones.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-04-29 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
That's really cool. Honestly, I'm fine with the idea of it as long as there are strict controls in terms of what is taught. The education guidelines should have to be the same. It is just that in my experience those guidelines aren't there, so people get to do what they want with homeschooling, which leads to a very wide range of experiences and some really bad things.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-29 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
Growing up, I honestly thought homeschooling was only for really crunchy granola types and I was shocked when I first heard that conservative Christian parents did it, too. I wondered if they knew they were making themselves look like hippies and thought it was kind of funny.