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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-28 12:09 am

[ SECRET POST #4496 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4496 ⌋

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[personal profile] chamonix 2019-04-28 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I... what no. Just no.

Dany was ABSOLUTELY raped and brutalised by Drogo in both the show AND the books. Yes, they had that semblance of a consent request on their wedding night... what, I wonder, do you think would have happened if she had said no? Would Drogo have respected that? Do you REALLY think so?

And then we get this text:

“Even the nights brought no relief. Khal Drogo ignored her when they rode, even as he had ignored her during their wedding, and spent his evenings drinking with his warriors and bloodriders, racing his prize horses, watching women dance and men die. Every night, some time before the dawn, Drogo would come to her tent and wake her in the dark, to ride her as relentlessly as he rode his stallion. He always took her from behind, Dothraki fashion, for which Dany was grateful; that way her lord husband could not see the tears that wet her face, and she could use her pillow to muffle her cries of pain. When he was done, he would close his eyes and begin to snore softly and Dany would lie beside him, her body bruised and sore, hurting too much for sleep.

Day followed day, and night followed night, until Dany knew she could not endure a moment longer. She would kill herself rather than go on, she decided one night…"

She literally contemplates suicide. In the end, she manipulates Drogo through sexual tricks taught to her by another slave. He then shows her desire and love, and it's true, probably allows her more liberties than some other khals would show their wives. But make no mistake; this is solely based on her sexual value. Dany's position is perilous. He promises the Iron Throne, yes - after another man has offended him by seeking to harm his wife, his PROPERTY. And even then, who does he promise The Iron Throne to? Rhaego. His son in utero. Not Dany. Be honest. Had Drogo lived, how do you see their story unfolding? Do you see him happy to be her subordinate as Queen of the Seven Kingdoms? To allow her to rule in her own right? You must be joking.

Dany makes a very moving and insightful speech in Mereen when she is told some slaves wish to return to how things were before. "We learn to love our chains", she says. And so it was with Drogo. She turned a terrible situation to her own benefit and as a very young woman began to associate feelings of love with her captor who eventually showed her some reciptocation. But her life under Drogo would NEVER have been free. You'd have to be completely delusional to think so.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't she young when she marries him? I've never seen the books or show so I'm coming at this blind but I thought one of the issues with her marriage with Drogo is because she was young and that she couldn't technically consent to the sex?
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[personal profile] chamonix 2019-04-28 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
She is 13 in the book; older in the show, though not by much - 15 or 16 maybe? I mean our definition of ability to consent means nothing in Westeros; by their standards Drogo did at least make some effort towards not completely alienating her on her wedding night. But nothing excuses what happened afterwards. He absolutely raped her, repeatedly and unrepentantly. His eventual respect for her is based completely on their sexual relationship. Even then, their relationship is built on implicit boundaries. She must be careful never to cross those, or she will lose his extremely conditional indulgence. Honestly Dany has little to no agency in their relationship. Even if Drogo had survived, their relationship never would have. People romanticise it because it died before that ugly truth became impossible to ignore.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-29 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I get that our society is different than Westeros, but the books aren't written in a vacuum. It's always made me uneasy how people clamor to believe that, even in fiction, children can somehow consent to sex.