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[ SECRET POST #4498 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4498 ⌋

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The Naruto secret made me wonder, has there ever been instance where this made sense for all the characters involved?

I can't think of any series in particular, but it would only make sense in a situation where the world needed to be repopulated.

Lol, I've seen those fics.

I can't think of one. I still prickle with annoyance when I think of the Digimon 02 epilogue. Like goddamn.

I like to pretend that ending never happened 'cause fuck those random pairings and random career assignments.

I didn't mind the random career assignments, cus growing up, blah blah blah, but it always bothers me when kid groups end up mainly paired with eachother in future epilogues. Especially when exploration, independence and responsibility play such a massive role in the stories. It just seems way too... insular.

It makes some sense in Outlander because of the historical setting.

It wasn't a "pair everyone up" because it was just the main character but I was kind of amused that people flipped out so damn much when their chosen player character in Assassin's Creed Odyssey ended up in a short het relationship to conceive a child, no matter the choices before. Because yeah, kinda stupid but for anyone having played even a single Assassin's Creed game - what were they expecting? Of course there was going to be a child if they wanted to keep that silly DNA-memory thing going.

I still think it's dumb in general but that particular example made sense in the context of the franchise.

I'm tired of explaining why this sucked so much. Look. Yes. Obviously ther was going to be a child somewhere. But it didn't have to be played out, and it didn't need to force you to do it. I'm just so.... tired of having little bits of choice to allow myself to play out a relationship that I actually identify with, only to have it yanked away like "aw lol you stupid gay what did you think would happen??"

It's hurtful. Plain and simple it's hurtful. If you can't understand why people would be upset by literally forced heterosexuality, I don't know how I can possibly help you.

Geez, calm down. I get that it sucks. But Assassin's Creed just isn't the type of game franchise that was ever supposed to be all about player choice and free RPG decisions and I'm not sure why anyone expected otherwise.
It's shitty. I know it's shitty - something like this was the reason I never played Fallout 4. But there is hardly a more annoying franchise when it comes to "compulsive het babies - the game" than the Assassin's Creed series. And I can't help people falling for Ubisoft's bullshit hook line and sinker.

If you agree it's bullshit, why are you mad at people for being angry at it? This is the shit I don't get

Where did I say I was mad? I said it was kind of amusing because I basically saw this shit coming from a mile away and couldn't fathom how people were not expecting this bullshit. Mostly a gallow's humour kind of thing, really, because I'm just too used to and tired of the bullshit big game companies in general and Ubisoft in particular pull.

You said it made sense in the context of the franchise and you put the blame on people falling for Ubisoft's bullshit instead of Ubisoft pulling the bullshit in the first place, in response to someone saying it was personally hurtful to them

No, I already said that before you came in and whined at me. And I still think it's true. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Expecting Ubisoft to suddenly quit their shitty compulsively heterosexual ways is about as naive as expecting a canon gay LI in the Witcher games or David Cage to write a meaningful subtle plot for one of his games.

And yes, it does make sense in the context of the franchise. The one thing every Assassin's Creed game has in common is the whole "gotta have that baby" shit. And even if the game hadn't made you play it, it still would have been an underlying fact in the game's plot at some point. There was no way around it.

Not everyone's as cynical, I guess. People genuinely wanted to believe that things are generally getting better and more accepting, especially since the producers seem to harp on about it, so it hurts all the more to get slapped back down. I can't fault people for being hopeful. I fault the people that take that away.

Re: Babies ever after

(Anonymous) - 2019-05-01 00:32 (UTC) - Expand

I feel like I'm missing something. I don't want kids and find it refreshing when characters don't, but having babies is a very normal thing.

It's a particular trope in which every. single. character. get paired up in a neat little het relationship at the end of a series and produces children. (Often magically at the roughly same time so everyone in the younger generation is about the same age - which in cases like Naruto is basically just for sequel purposes.)
It's a subtrope of the general compulsive heterosexuality, only with people breeding added onto it.

nayrt and I'm gay so yeah, I hate when my queerbaity characters get put into het relationships... but it's really not rare for a group of teenage friends to all be married and have kids ten years down the line. More people get married and have kids than don't.

da and yeah, at my tenth high school reunion there were definitely more people who did have kids than didn't. And funnily enough, it played out exactly the way most second-gen things like Boruto and Harry Potter did: for a few years no one had kids, then a couple of people did and suddenly the next thing you knew, a ton of my classmates were all having kids around the same time.

It's definitely a normal thing, but it's weird when every single major and minor character in a series gets married and has babies.

Yeah, same. I don't want kids ever but I have a lot of friends who do want/have kids. There are plenty of people who DO want to be parents.

Fire Emblem.
Well reverse in Blazing Sword and The Binding Blade. The only time I can stand it tbh.

I know a lot of people hated it, but I think it absolutely made sense for Harry Potter. The whole series is about family. Of course they were all going to end up married with babies.

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