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Piggybacking on yesterday's thread, I have known several "gay guys" who turned out to be cishet girls playing pretend for the attention. It's always beyond entertaining when they get found out and dragged over the coals. Some of the excuses they come up with! One girl desperately tried to claim she had "multiple personality disorder" and she hadn't lied at all, to which literally everyone was like "that isn't how DID works you fucking asshole" LMAO

Tbh it's getting increasingly hard for me to laugh at people using the Internet to try out new gender identities for being "fakers"

Can't agree, sorry. I do literally mean cishet girls here; they're fetishizing an identity that doesn't belong to them in any way just so they get "internet points." Especially since they tend to be the ones who yell at "fujoshi" for fetishizing gayness; like what?

DA

Do you know what "trying out" means?

Sometimes cishet girls think they might be gay men. Sometimes they discover they're wrong. Finding out you were wrong about yourself doesn't mean you were "faking."

I thought the problem was that the cishet women present themselves as cis gay men to gain credibility. Not people exploring if they're trans gay men.

I think the argument is that acting like a cis gay man is probably the kind of thing that would appeal to someone generally experimenting with putting on masculinity, and so for that reason, it would probably naturally appeal to a lot of baby trans men.

sa

I'm more familiar with the scandals of cishet women writing and speaking with the authority and identiry of a cis gay man in pro m/m novels though, not fandom.

That's a fair point tbh, it seems like that would probably be a very different situation

original anon: that was actually the point I was more going for, that the fakers were definitely doing it as an attention-seeking activity and to be able to lord their position as the Foremost Expert in Cis Gay Sex above all the silly dirty fangirls. I didn't make that clear, that's my fault.

Not really. It's not such a huge difference if the kiddies trying out new identities go ahead and attempt to lord their new try-out identities over everyone else in fandom and act like they're some kind of authority on issues pertaining to certain identities -in this case (cis)gay men- that they have absolutely no knowledge of or experience with.

I get that they identified as cishet at that time, but like, how do you know that they actually were cishet?

I don't know, man, it just seems to me like, with all of that stuff, a lot of those people probably were trans and didn't know how to identify it or acknowledge it or deal with those feelings and issues - or, especially back in the Older Times of the Internet, didn't really know what the whole deal with being trans was in the first place.

It's the same thing with people who used to pretend to be girls on MMOs, back in the day - it seems to me that a lot of those people, not all of them, but a good number of those people probably were trans.

Not everyone that plays with gender is trans, though. My boyfriend crossdresses sometimes, but is perfectly comfortable identifying as male. We've even talked about that and he's 100% sure of it.

When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. You're ascribing transness to an incredibly wide swathe of people who it simply doesn't apply to.

That's why I said some but not all

Okay, but this thread is about fakers. Even if most of the people it applies to aren't trans, I don't think most cis girls claim to be trans guys on the internet because they're ~faking~

They're experimenting. I used to say I was bisexual because I thought I was. In hindsight it's clear as day that I'm asexual. But I was not ~faking~ when I said I was bi. I believed it. I think most of the girls saying they're guys believe it too.

I am bisexual and (I think?) cis female and spent a year or so in 1999 pretending to be male online. I wasn't pretending to be *gay* though, I was pretending to be a straight or maybe bi ( mostly into women but occasionally sort of attracted to a man too) and it was definitely a way of exploring my gender identity (which I still don't really know for sure, though I am sure I'm not a trans man. Maybe gender fluid, maybe agender, but I'm fine with being considered cis female most of the time?)

Well, people got offended... Honestly, remembering those times I'm gonna laugh too, because people would do whatever they could back then. Hell, I remember just going with the idea I was a guy simply because it was too much effort to set things straight, and so many more when people did it on purpose just to get a rise.
So lol man.

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